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Mar 20, 2018 14:44:29   #
akamerica
 
I have the Nikon 810 and am hung-up on selling the 810 and buying the 850.

Not a pro, just a serious hobbyist taking mostly walk-about scenery, travels, family, and of course, Trooper Dog.

A decent set of Nikon lens to include the 85mm, 70-200mm, 35-70mm 2.8 w/macro (old) shooting in RAW and doing selected pictures in
Occasional an enlarged print for my wall but mostly slide shows with a Blu-ray DVD on a flat screen TV for the best resolution. I love SHARP focused pictures. Using Photoshop's Camera RAW.

?Will the increased number of the 850's 45.7MP pixels produce a less sharp picture even with a hand-held VR lens on the 850? (all of my lens are VR except the 35-70.) Yes, I do understand increasing the shutter speed - but still. . ..
?Concerned that the on-camera flash has been eliminated making flash fill shots not possible without adding my flash attachment or overexposing the background?
If you have gone to the 850 from the 810 I would be interested in your thoughts. Would you do it again and why?

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Mar 20, 2018 14:58:32   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
akamerica wrote:
I have the Nikon 810 and am hung-up on selling the 810 and buying the 850.

Not a pro, just a serious hobbyist taking mostly walk-about scenery, travels, family, and of course, Trooper Dog.

A decent set of Nikon lens to include the 85mm, 70-200mm, 35-70mm 2.8 w/macro (old) shooting in RAW and doing selected pictures in
Occasional an enlarged print for my wall but mostly slide shows with a Blu-ray DVD on a flat screen TV for the best resolution. I love SHARP focused pictures. Using Photoshop's Camera RAW.

?Will the increased number of the 850's 45.7MP pixels produce a less sharp picture even with a hand-held VR lens on the 850? (all of my lens are VR except the 35-70.) Yes, I do understand increasing the shutter speed - but still. . ..
?Concerned that the on-camera flash has been eliminated making flash fill shots not possible without adding my flash attachment or overexposing the background?
If you have gone to the 850 from the 810 I would be interested in your thoughts. Would you do it again and why?
I have the Nikon 810 and am hung-up on selling the... (show quote)


Be prepared to be asked what do you think is missing from your hobby when using the 810, that will be improved with the 850.

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Mar 20, 2018 15:02:06   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Be prepared to be asked what do you think is missing from your hobby when using the 810, that will be improved with the 850.




It's called GAS!

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Mar 20, 2018 15:17:49   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
DaveO wrote:


It's called GAS!


And if you have it, don't apologize.
GAS is good.

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Mar 20, 2018 15:20:38   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
Both cameras are great..One has 36 megapixels, the other has 45.7 megapixels. 36 megapixels is more than enough..But, if your brain leads to you wanting the D850, buy it. Be sure to sell the D810 if you upgrade. Keeping both cameras would really be GAS.

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Mar 20, 2018 15:31:02   #
mharvey
 
For me, the 850’s improved focus (especially low light), new and better in-camera processor and amazing high iso “usability”, were well worth the upgrade. I, too, agonized over the loss of onboard flash but find I rarely miss it.
When I DO need a little “fill”, I carry the tiny SB-400 (fits in your pocket) which is BETTER than the onboard because you can bounce it.
I loved the 810 and am still getting comfortable with some of the physical control changes, but I wouldn’t go back.

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Mar 20, 2018 15:41:05   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
And if you have it, don't apologize.
GAS is good.


I was able to sell my D810 early on and beat the rush. One of my main reasons for changing were the similarities between the D500 and D850 focus systems making it easier to learn when switching back and forth between cameras. Good for some of us old people. Another is doing away with CF cards and using XQD and SD only.

On some of my shoots I have a 150-600 G2 on the D500 and a 70-200 on the D850 for places like salt marshes with rapidly changing opportunities.

Tilting in ones chair is cheaper and easier for GAS issues, but not nearly the fun.

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Mar 20, 2018 17:56:13   #
akamerica
 
Yes GAS is good, but what is GAS?

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Mar 20, 2018 18:04:30   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
akamerica wrote:
Yes GAS is good, but what is GAS?


In our world, GAS = Gear Acquisition Syndrome.

Can be hazardous to your health...

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Mar 20, 2018 18:07:00   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
akamerica wrote:
I have the Nikon 810 and am hung-up on selling the 810 and buying the 850.

Not a pro, just a serious hobbyist taking mostly walk-about scenery, travels, family, and of course, Trooper Dog.

A decent set of Nikon lens to include the 85mm, 70-200mm, 35-70mm 2.8 w/macro (old) shooting in RAW and doing selected pictures in
Occasional an enlarged print for my wall but mostly slide shows with a Blu-ray DVD on a flat screen TV for the best resolution. I love SHARP focused pictures. Using Photoshop's Camera RAW.

?Will the increased number of the 850's 45.7MP pixels produce a less sharp picture even with a hand-held VR lens on the 850? (all of my lens are VR except the 35-70.) Yes, I do understand increasing the shutter speed - but still. . ..
?Concerned that the on-camera flash has been eliminated making flash fill shots not possible without adding my flash attachment or overexposing the background?
If you have gone to the 850 from the 810 I would be interested in your thoughts. Would you do it again and why?
I have the Nikon 810 and am hung-up on selling the... (show quote)


In your situation I’d say plug the GAS leak and skip the upgrade, wait for the next one!!!
SS

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Mar 20, 2018 18:15:15   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
akamerica wrote:
Yes GAS is good, but what is GAS?


GAS is the perceived need or want to acquire the best and latest gear that one can responsibly, or not, afford.
It is often insatiable, and almost always pleasurable.
Go for the 850.
Life is short.

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Mar 20, 2018 19:14:59   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
DaveO wrote:
In our world, GAS = Gear Acquisition Syndrome.

Can be hazardous to your health...


Financial health, that is. And in some situations, relationship health... who knows how many failed marriages resulted from out-of-control photography GAS.

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Mar 20, 2018 19:17:02   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
rook2c4 wrote:
Financial health, that is. And in some situations, relationship health... who knows how many failed marriages resulted from out-of-control photography GAS.


In my defense, she insisted that I pursue some sort of hobby when I retired. Further, she highly recommended photography.

I rest my case.

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Mar 20, 2018 19:20:15   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
DaveO wrote:
In my defense, she insisted that I pursue some sort of hobby when I retired. Further, she highly recommended photography.

I rest my case.



In her defense, it took me five cameras, fourteen lenses, two tripods, two gimbals, two ball heads, and at least one or two other small necessities..

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Mar 20, 2018 19:40:36   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
akamerica wrote:
If you have gone to the 850 from the 810 I would be interested in your thoughts. Would you do it again and why?


Resolution with the D850 is unreal, and the increase in image size, I feel, is worth it. Focus at first, since the resolution is so high, is tricky hand held, but you'll figure it out. WIth the D810, I could tell Lightroom to import as DNGs, but with the D850, import and convert is S-L-O-W, so I just import/copy which is very fast. Focus stacking, internal timelapse and intervalometer are just great, and the folding LCD screen is worth the price of admission.

You've already got the D810, so new Fx lenses are not needed, but if you have the budget, I would recommend a Tamron 24-70 G2.

The high ISO performance is fantastic in low light.

Have fun.

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