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Mar 19, 2018 12:15:11   #
BebuLamar
 
chippy wrote:
We pay mega bucks for the latest camera with more computing power than a Moon-Lander and Auto Mode is disdained ?

Do you have an " Auto " car, or do you use a manual gearbox?................ Which drives the car most effectively ?

Are you in danger of missing the shot while fiddling with the settings ?

Washing machines, computer controlled CNC,...... Micro surgery the list is endless where the computer wins out.

Perhaps in years to come you will be able to program your drone to go to your favourite locations, take the photos

and return them to you to process in PhotoShop,

Coming from a history of manually cocked shutters, flash-bulbs and slow film speeds,graduating eventually to a Zenith SLR

(now that WAS manual) First SLR with TTL metering I am hugely impressed by the programming power and facilities offered

by a modern camera.
We pay mega bucks for the latest camera with more ... (show quote)


We do not pay mega bucks to have the camera with Auto mode. In fact we have camera with Auto mode because we can't afford one that doesn't have the Auto mode.

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Mar 19, 2018 12:23:43   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
In current Panasonics there are a lot of automatic settings. "P", "A" and "S" are sort of semi automatic. Then there is "iA" for "intelligent automatic". It analyses the scene and will set the camera to optimize for low light night shots to landscapes. The "+" returns some of the control to the photographer for things like "brightness".

There is only one manual setting called "M".

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Mar 19, 2018 12:30:18   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
bsprague wrote:
In current Panasonics there are a lot of automatic settings. "P", "A" and "S" are sort of semi automatic. Then there is "iA" for "intelligent automatic". It analyses the scene and will set the camera to optimize for low light night shots to landscapes. The "+" returns some of the control to the photographer for things like "brightness".

There is only one manual setting called "M".

I don't think the semi auto modes are what the OP is talking about. I believe the discussion is about using a camera's full auto mode and just composing and shooting.

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Mar 19, 2018 12:40:21   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
mwsilvers wrote:
.... I believe the discussion is about using a camera's full auto mode and just composing and shooting.
I think you are right.

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Mar 19, 2018 14:00:59   #
G Brown Loc: Sunny Bognor Regis West Sussex UK
 
Auto is great, but once in a while you want the camera to produce an image that you cannot see.....milky water or what is in the dark etc....But never decry auto mode... It gives one the confidence to begin in photography. (something Film was very bad at)

As has been said before...Composition is 9/10ths of the image, settings are the 1/10th that allows you to choose an effect or counter an effect that you encounter.

have fun

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Mar 19, 2018 14:22:37   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
It's very handy for the first time dslr camera who knows absolutely nothing about the exposure triangle. It allows them to use their camera while they actually learn HOW to use their camera.

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Mar 19, 2018 14:39:08   #
BebuLamar
 
SteveR wrote:
It's very handy for the first time dslr camera who knows absolutely nothing about the exposure triangle. It allows them to use their camera while they actually learn HOW to use their camera.



You don't need the triangle!

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Mar 19, 2018 16:14:45   #
chaman
 
SteveR wrote:
It's very handy for the first time dslr camera who knows absolutely nothing about the exposure triangle. It allows them to use their camera while they actually learn HOW to use their camera.


Sadly this is not always the case. They are not interested in learning. They want to press a button and get an award wining image. Also they become very creative findings ways to justify and rationalize their shortcomings as it seems to be the purpose of this very thread. Comparing the camera to an automatic transmission is specially absurd.

I still would insist that the OP posts his best image, the best one taken in full AUTO and let members analyze it. I guess the OP will not do that though, since is quite probable he does not want to hear anything negative about his work.

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Mar 19, 2018 16:34:55   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
chaman wrote:
Sadly this is not always the case. They are not interested in learning. They want to press a button and get an award wining image. Also they become very creative findings ways to justify and rationalize their shortcomings as it seems to be the purpose of this very thread. Comparing the camera to an automatic transmission is specially absurd.

I still would insist that the OP posts his best image, the best one taken in full AUTO and let members analyze it. I guess the OP will not do that though, since is quite probable he does not want to hear anything negative about his work.
Sadly this is not always the case. They are not in... (show quote)


Well, a photo take in auto on a DSLR is always better than a photo taken on a cell phone. To each his own, chaman, even if all they want to do is shoot in auto.

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Mar 19, 2018 16:40:09   #
BebuLamar
 
SteveR wrote:
Well, a photo take in auto on a DSLR is always better than a photo taken on a cell phone. To each his own, chaman, even if all they want to do is shoot in auto.


I don't think so! There are times I had to switch to the cell phone or my P&S because the DSLR simply doesn't cut it. In which case you may ask? When I need a lot of DOF and even at f/32 my FF DSLR doesn't have as much DOF as my little P&S at f/8.

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Mar 19, 2018 16:49:22   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I don't think so! There are times I had to switch to the cell phone or my P&S because the DSLR simply doesn't cut it. In which case you may ask? When I need a lot of DOF and even at f/32 my FF DSLR doesn't have as much DOF as my little P&S at f/8.


That doesn't even make sense.

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Mar 19, 2018 16:51:22   #
BebuLamar
 
SteveR wrote:
That doesn't even make sense.


What doesn't make sense? Perhaps you never need a lot of DOF but only paper thin DOF?

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Mar 19, 2018 17:43:54   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
We do not pay mega bucks to have the camera with Auto mode. In fact we have camera with Auto mode because we can't afford one that doesn't have the Auto mode.

I just discovered that my Pentax Q-7 does have a green 'auto' mode; my K-30 doesn't.

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Mar 19, 2018 17:44:15   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
SteveR wrote:
Well, a photo take in auto on a DSLR is always better than a photo taken on a cell phone. To each his own, chaman, even if all they want to do is shoot in auto.

Sometimes better perhaps, but certainly not always. And a skilled photographer with a one of the newer cell phone cameras will likely always get better images than a mediocre photographer with the best camera made. Good photography is more about understanding composition and lighting than the gear used. Modern cell phones shoot raw and allow for manual settings. While they may not excel at creating a poster size image suitable for printing due to their small sensors and relatively low pixel count, the image results can be quite good. Attached are two images I took over three years ago with my old Samsung Galaxy s5 cell phone shot as jpegs since that camera did not support raw. I've recently moved on to a much newer Galaxy s8+which does shoot raw, but have no images to share at this time. The cameras of newer cells phones are significantly better than my old Galaxy s5. These were taken in low light at sunset on the last weekend of summer.


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Mar 20, 2018 01:05:26   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
mikedidi46 wrote:
I bounce around, but for me, AUTO is my PROGRAM MODE on my CANON

P does not stand for PROGRAM MODE; according to Ben Stonegood, it means PROFESSIONAL MODE!

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