RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida

God did not make the world...Man made up the existence of God to come to terms with his personal existence. ANYONE who believes his underwear is MAGIC should never be elected to public office.

Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

I done a search and came up with this.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/08/did_kerrys_swift_boat_hatchet_man_fake_his_own_silver_star.html

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Swift_Boat_Veterans_for_Truth

Before you attack me... I am only looking for the truth.

DennisK Loc: Pickle City,Illinois

That's only your sick opinion,so in other words,it don't mean squat.
I have proof God made the world;it's called the Book of Genesis.

ole sarg Loc: south florida

I'm a Viet Nam vet and can't stand Jane but will stand by Kerry. He was there. The swift boat hacks were not with him.
When Kerry came back he opposed the war and so did many of the vets who returned.

RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida

How dare you call me sick!

Bob.J Loc: On The Move

Then you'll be very proud of your President and Almighty Savior awarding Hanoi Jane "Woman of the Century"

I'm surprised you are an Ole Sarge, you sound like a good frag candidate

RMM Loc: Suburban New York

I looked this up, and apparently, Fonda was named as one of "100 Women of the Century" in a Barbara Walters special.

In 1999.

If you can cite a source for your assertion, please do so.

"Frag candidate?" Ole Sarg served. Did you?

Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

I looked it up also and found this...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1752398/posts

And yes, I too Served, One year Da Nang '67 - '68.

tschmath Loc: Los Angeles

As I said in an earlier post, this Swiftboat bull**t has been debunked. T. Boone Pickens started the nonsense and helped create the bogus group of vets. Here is a link to a letter written to him and sent to President Bush in 2008, written by the men who served with Kerry. They completely debunk every charge leveled against Kerry thoroughly and completely. Let's stop either knowingly or unknowingly spreading lies and character assassinations.

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/FINALPICKENSLETTERFROMCREW.pdf

UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA

Right, those that came as children, not to every one of the illegals.

ole sarg Loc: south florida

RMM:

The trouble with you is that you are either stupid or gullible which means you are not too smart.

You should have been there, or were you too young or just a good ole chicken hawk!

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/11/blame-jane-falsehoods/

Q: Is President Obama honoring Jane Fonda as one of the women of the century?

A: No. That was done 11 years ago by Barbara Walters of ABC News.


FULL QUESTION

A recent chain e-mail claims that Obama will honor Jane Fonda. Is this true?

Never Forgive A Traitor

For those of you too young to remember Hanoi Jane is a bad person and did some terrible things during the Vietnam war. Things that can not be forgiven!!!!

For those who served and/or died. . .

NEVER FORGIVE A TRAITOR. SHE REALLY WAS A TRAITOR!!

And now OBAMA wants to honor her……!!!!

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FULL ANSWER

It is simply false that the president is planning to honor Jane Fonda as one of the "100 women of the century," as this chain e-mail claims.

Fonda was one of many women featured in a Barbara Walters special for ABC News called "A Celebration: 100 Years of Great Women," which looked at the "most inspiring, intriguing and entertaining" women of the 20th century. It was actually based on a list of the "100 Most Important Women of the 20th Century" selected by a panel for Ladies’ Home Journal.

The program hosted by Walters aired on April 30, 1999, nearly 10 years prior to Obama becoming president. Versions of this e-mail — without references to Obama, of course — began circulating soon after Walters’ special aired. They make some false claims about Fonda.

Jane Fonda in Vietnam

It is true that Fonda, an actress and activist, traveled to Hanoi, North Vietnam, in 1972 to protest U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War.

She delivered several messages on the communist country’s Radio Hanoi encouraging American soldiers not to bomb the North Vietnamese. She also reportedly called freed American prisoners of war returning to the U.S. "hypocrites and liars" for claiming they had been tortured by their captors. And she was infamously photographed posing warmly with a group of North Vietnamese soldiers at an anti-aircraft gun site during her visit there. Her actions earned her the moniker "Hanoi Jane" from war veterans of that era who still harbor bad feelings toward her to this day.

But whatever one may think of Fonda’s visit to Hanoi, she did not do some of the things claimed in this e-mail message. In fact, some of the claims were debunked years ago by some of the very people named in the e-mail.

False Claims

It is not true, as this e-mail claims, that Jerry Driscoll, a former POW in Vietnam, suffered career-ending double vision from a beating he allegedly received from his captors after Fonda visited. Driscoll, who has said he never met Fonda, has denied for years that the scenario described in the e-mail ever happened. In 2005, the Star Tribune of Minneapolis reported him saying:

Star Tribune, May 25, 2005: "Totally false. It did not happen," Driscoll said.

Held almost seven years, Driscoll has negative feelings about Fonda because of her visit, but he wasn’t beaten because of her and can see just fine. After all, he flies corporate jets now, after retiring as a pilot from the Air Force and later American Airlines.

"I don’t know who came up with [my] name. The trouble that individual has caused me!" he said, referring to the time he has spent repeatedly denying the persistent myth.

It also is not true that Fonda gave North Vietnamese guards little pieces of paper with the Social Security numbers of American POWs on them that supposedly resulted in the beatings of former POW Larry Carrigan and three others.

Since e-mails like this one began circulating in 1999, Mike McGrath, a former POW and director and historian of the Nam-POWs, has been denying that there were any beating deaths as a result of Fonda’s visit:

Star Tribune, May 25, 2005: Carrigan, 64, is so tired of having to repeat that he wasn’t beaten after Fonda’s visit and that there were no beating deaths at that time that he won’t talk to the media anymore, said Mike McGrath, a retired Navy pilot held for almost six years and historian of the nonprofit NAM-POWs veterans group. McGrath, 65, of Colorado, also said there were no known beating deaths of POWs after 1969. All known POWs in North Vietnam were released early in 1973.

"We don’t want to be party to false stories, which could be used as an excuse that her real actions didn’t really happen, either," McGrath wrote in a 1999 rebuttal to the e-mails, when he was president of NAM-POWs.

One Thing Right

The e-mail does get one other thing right, according to Michael Benge, a former civilian economic development advisor who was captured by the North Vietnamese in 1968.

Benge told the Star Tribune that he is the man described in the e-mail as having "spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched with a large steel weights placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane." Though he said he didn’t know who attached his story to the e-mail.

Benge, who was held captive for more than five years, described his punishment in a letter he wrote in 1999, shaming Walters and ABC for including Fonda in that year’s special.

Michael Benge letter excerpt, 1999: At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.). We were Jane Fonda’s "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs were receiving, which was far different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient."

Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a piece of steel rebar placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane every time my arms dipped. Jane Fonda had the audacity to say that the POWs were lying about our torture and treatment.

Now ABC is allowing Barbara Walters to honor Jane Fonda in her Feature "100 Years of Great Women." Shame, shame on Jane Fonda! Shame, shame on Barbara Walters! Shame, shame on 20-20. Shame, shame on ABC. And, shame, shame on the Disney Company.

Fonda has since apologized a number of times for being photographed with North Vietnamese soldiers including during a 2005 interview with Lesley Stahl for CBS’ "60 Minutes."

"I will go to my grave regretting that," Fonda said. "The image of Jane Fonda, Barbarella, Henry Fonda’s daughter — just a woman, sitting on an enemy aircraft gun, was a betrayal."

She declined to apologize during the interview for speaking out against the war on Radio Hanoi, or for meeting with American POWs during her 1972 visit, which Stahl said the North Vietnamese later used for the purpose of propaganda.

– D’Angelo Gore

Sources
"A Celebration: 100 Years of Great Women." Transcript. ABC News. 30 Apr 1999.

Markey, Kevin. "100 Most Important Women of the 20th Century." Meredith Books, 1998.

Dougherty, Jon. "Not saluting Jane Fonda, part II." World Net Daily. 10 Nov 1999.

Hahn, Trudi. "Ex-POW is no fan of Fonda, but he debunks e-mail claim." Star Tribune (Minneaplois). 25 May 2005.

"60 Minutes." Transcript. CBS News. 3 Apr 2005.

Leung, Rebecca. "Jane Fonda: Wish I Hadn’t." CBS News. 3 Apr 2005.

dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida

Ted 45 discribes another magic bullet!
"The man panicked and shot a rock. The ricochet hit him in the butt. He demanded a Purple Heart for a wound that took nothing more than a common bandage"

Yes Ted, I shot a marine's wedding, he had two purple hearts. I commented to a friend in jest, that the man did not know how to run away nor hide and most of us have sense enough to do just that. Takes a very special man to get hit twice and NEVER would I suggest nor should TED that these men are not brave. I was lucky I never saw combat.

May I remind you all that Michele Bockman is not a racist, NOT! MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — A spokeswoman says U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann wasn’t referring to race when she used the term “tar baby” to attack President Barack Obama’s energy policy.
Now she is claiming Moslem connection for Clinton... (Moslem being a nasty word like Liberal or Commie!) I had a pink blanket and there was a pinko dust bunny under my bed I was concerned that I would be in trouble... I recall the Mc Carthy days... Now:
Hillary Clinton’s connection to the Muslim Brotherhood
Posted by Mediawerkgroep Syrië ⋅ 15 juli 2012⋅ Geef een reactie
Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) has been known to promote paranoid conspiracy theories and in recent weeks, she bought into one promoted by Islamophobic chieftain Frank Gaffney that the U.S. government has been infiltrated by the Muslim Brotherhood.
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/07/10/513701/bachmann-clinton-muslim-brotherhood/?mobile=nc
What do these right wingers smoke???

UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA

I think they have found themselves in the whirlpool of reality and are simply grasping at imagined straws.

ole sarg Loc: south florida

I think Michele uses this stuff to deflect incoming from hitting her husband.

I am reminded of my old sergeant who used to say:

shot at and missed shit at and hit!

UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA

Sorry Sarge, diferent Michele's LOL