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Jul 17, 2012 10:53:05   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
tschmath wrote:
1eyedjack wrote:
Obamacare is more about taxes than health care..
27000 pages of how to screw the public..


It just gets better and better. From 2,000 pages it's now grown to 27,000 pages, when in reality it's 908 pages. Amazing what simple-minded people wil believe without verifying.


The bill itself is actually 1990 pages not 908
( http://computationallegalstudies.com/2009/11/08/facts-about-the-length-of-h-r-3962/ )

But that is not really the biggest problem that the bill has regarding its breath, the bigger problem is that in the end the bill will cover 10's of thousands of bureaucratic regulations as much of our health care and the changes that will occur have been turned over to commissions and has become subject to the regulatory power of HHS as we have already seen earlier this year... So when he claims that the bill is 27,000 pages in actuality he may be on the conservative side with his estimate as much of the bill has yet to be written by HHS and its army of regulators...

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Jul 17, 2012 10:55:39   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
yhtomit wrote:
Thanx OS.
I have to ask.Are you in favor of creating more and more government?And one more,who are the money bags that are controlling the republicans and democrats?
Cheers.

ole sarg wrote:
yhtomit:

Nothing it just repealed ACA but kept the congresses enhanced health care programs in tact. Under ACA they would have had to have the same care plan as everyone else!

These guys are a bunch of phonies. They want to deny the little guy but protect themselves.

This is typical behavior of the haves over the have nots!
Thanx OS. br I have to ask.Are you in favor of cre... (show quote)


the mormons?

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Jul 17, 2012 14:53:41   #
UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
tschmath wrote:
1eyedjack wrote:
Obamacare is more about taxes than health care..
27000 pages of how to screw the public..


It just gets better and better. From 2,000 pages it's now grown to 27,000 pages, when in reality it's 908 pages. Amazing what simple-minded people wil believe without verifying.


The bill itself is actually 1990 pages not 908
( http://computationallegalstudies.com/2009/11/08/facts-about-the-length-of-h-r-3962/ )

But that is not really the biggest problem that the bill has regarding its breath, the bigger problem is that in the end the bill will cover 10's of thousands of bureaucratic regulations as much of our health care and the changes that will occur have been turned over to commissions and has become subject to the regulatory power of HHS as we have already seen earlier this year... So when he claims that the bill is 27,000 pages in actuality he may be on the conservative side with his estimate as much of the bill has yet to be written by HHS and its army of regulators...
quote=tschmath quote=1eyedjack Obamacare is more... (show quote)


Your counting the blank pages also, just count the ones with print on them.

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Jul 17, 2012 14:55:00   #
UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA
 
docrob wrote:
yhtomit wrote:
Thanx OS.
I have to ask.Are you in favor of creating more and more government?And one more,who are the money bags that are controlling the republicans and democrats?
Cheers.

ole sarg wrote:
yhtomit:

Nothing it just repealed ACA but kept the congresses enhanced health care programs in tact. Under ACA they would have had to have the same care plan as everyone else!

These guys are a bunch of phonies. They want to deny the little guy but protect themselves.

This is typical behavior of the haves over the have nots!
Thanx OS. br I have to ask.Are you in favor of cre... (show quote)


the mormons?
quote=yhtomit Thanx OS. br I have to ask.Are you ... (show quote)


Darn Do, thought you said moron was about to jump up and applaud.

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Jul 17, 2012 14:58:11   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
frenchcoast wrote:
Blurryeyed wrote:
tschmath wrote:
1eyedjack wrote:
Obamacare is more about taxes than health care..
27000 pages of how to screw the public..


It just gets better and better. From 2,000 pages it's now grown to 27,000 pages, when in reality it's 908 pages. Amazing what simple-minded people wil believe without verifying.


The bill itself is actually 1990 pages not 908
( http://computationallegalstudies.com/2009/11/08/facts-about-the-length-of-h-r-3962/ )

But that is not really the biggest problem that the bill has regarding its breath, the bigger problem is that in the end the bill will cover 10's of thousands of bureaucratic regulations as much of our health care and the changes that will occur have been turned over to commissions and has become subject to the regulatory power of HHS as we have already seen earlier this year... So when he claims that the bill is 27,000 pages in actuality he may be on the conservative side with his estimate as much of the bill has yet to be written by HHS and its army of regulators...
quote=tschmath quote=1eyedjack Obamacare is more... (show quote)


Your counting the blank pages also, just count the ones with print on them.
quote=Blurryeyed quote=tschmath quote=1eyedjack... (show quote)


I am hoping that was a joke.

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Jul 17, 2012 14:59:48   #
UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
frenchcoast wrote:
Blurryeyed wrote:
tschmath wrote:
1eyedjack wrote:
Obamacare is more about taxes than health care..
27000 pages of how to screw the public..


It just gets better and better. From 2,000 pages it's now grown to 27,000 pages, when in reality it's 908 pages. Amazing what simple-minded people wil believe without verifying.


The bill itself is actually 1990 pages not 908
( http://computationallegalstudies.com/2009/11/08/facts-about-the-length-of-h-r-3962/ )

But that is not really the biggest problem that the bill has regarding its breath, the bigger problem is that in the end the bill will cover 10's of thousands of bureaucratic regulations as much of our health care and the changes that will occur have been turned over to commissions and has become subject to the regulatory power of HHS as we have already seen earlier this year... So when he claims that the bill is 27,000 pages in actuality he may be on the conservative side with his estimate as much of the bill has yet to be written by HHS and its army of regulators...
quote=tschmath quote=1eyedjack Obamacare is more... (show quote)


Your counting the blank pages also, just count the ones with print on them.
quote=Blurryeyed quote=tschmath quote=1eyedjack... (show quote)


I am hoping that was a joke.
quote=frenchcoast quote=Blurryeyed quote=tschma... (show quote)


Must have been, am still laughing.

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Jul 17, 2012 15:41:33   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Yhotomit said on page 8 Thanx OS.
I have to ask.Are you in favor of creating more and more government?And one more,who are the money bags that are controlling the republicans and democrats?

Seems to me that Baby-Bush was creating new governments when he could not find the mushroom cloud factories! wanted to convert the heatherns moslems to christanity and declared it a "Crusade" wow we aint had one of those in a long time.

Now the Republicans are blocking the trancparancy act to name $ givers over 10K$. One big contributer is in trouble for bribing Chinese officials and wants an new kinder judgistice department. Also some Moslem conutries may be giving millions to the Republicans and they want to hide that affiliation.... key word may.

D--d it, I was counting pages and lost track the phone rang,, starting over again...

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Jul 17, 2012 16:07:30   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
dpullum wrote:
Yhotomit said on page 8 Thanx OS.
I have to ask.Are you in favor of creating more and more government?And one more,who are the money bags that are controlling the republicans and democrats?

Seems to me that Baby-Bush was creating new governments when he could not find the mushroom cloud factories! wanted to convert the heatherns moslems to christanity and declared it a "Crusade" wow we aint had one of those in a long time.

Now the Republicans are blocking the trancparancy act to name $ givers over 10K$. One big contributer is in trouble for bribing Chinese officials and wants an new kinder judgistice department. Also some Moslem conutries may be giving millions to the Republicans and they want to hide that affiliation.... key word may.

D--d it, I was counting pages and lost track the phone rang,, starting over again...
Yhotomit said on page 8 Thanx OS. br I have to ask... (show quote)


Pages? You don't need to count no stinking pages?

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Jul 17, 2012 16:11:35   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
Ok you covered the republican side,what about the democratic side?

dpullum wrote:
Yhotomit said on page 8 Thanx OS.
I have to ask.Are you in favor of creating more and more government?And one more,who are the money bags that are controlling the republicans and democrats?

Seems to me that Baby-Bush was creating new governments when he could not find the mushroom cloud factories! wanted to convert the heatherns moslems to christanity and declared it a "Crusade" wow we aint had one of those in a long time.

Now the Republicans are blocking the trancparancy act to name $ givers over 10K$. One big contributer is in trouble for bribing Chinese officials and wants an new kinder judgistice department. Also some Moslem conutries may be giving millions to the Republicans and they want to hide that affiliation.... key word may.

D--d it, I was counting pages and lost track the phone rang,, starting over again...
Yhotomit said on page 8 Thanx OS. br I have to ask... (show quote)

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Jul 17, 2012 16:18:47   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
yhtomit wrote:
Ok you covered the republican side,what about the democratic side?

dpullum wrote:
Yhotomit said on page 8 Thanx OS.
I have to ask.Are you in favor of creating more and more government?And one more,who are the money bags that are controlling the republicans and democrats?

Seems to me that Baby-Bush was creating new governments when he could not find the mushroom cloud factories! wanted to convert the heatherns moslems to christanity and declared it a "Crusade" wow we aint had one of those in a long time.

Now the Republicans are blocking the trancparancy act to name $ givers over 10K$. One big contributer is in trouble for bribing Chinese officials and wants an new kinder judgistice department. Also some Moslem conutries may be giving millions to the Republicans and they want to hide that affiliation.... key word may.

D--d it, I was counting pages and lost track the phone rang,, starting over again...
Yhotomit said on page 8 Thanx OS. br I have to ask... (show quote)
Ok you covered the republican side,what about the ... (show quote)


That whole bill is BS designed so that government contracts can be taken away from those who would support opposition. Why does the government need to know about political donations on RFP's? If they were to make a law that no governmental contractor can make political contributions then that would be one thing and it may get a lot of popular support back home, but to just list political contributions with no parameters on how that information will be used by the government in awarding contracts is just political arm twisting and it is again another hard ball tactic being used by this administration in an attempt to force the opposition to lay down in front of the "One".

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Jul 17, 2012 16:33:17   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
I like that idea no contracts to those who donate.

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