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Feb 24, 2018 19:48:41   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
pounder35 wrote:
I've read a lot about this epidemic recently. And that's what it is. An epidemic. The problem originated with the big pharmaceuticals. They pushed the product on physicians with what basically amount to bribes to push the product on patients. Very addictive products and very profitable for Big Pharm and doctors with lower ethics. The number of doctors in my area who have been charged with crimes and lost their license is incredible. They're basically known as "Pill Farms" even if most is injected. Get a patient addicted and you have repeat business. Everybody is making money except the ones who are dying from an overdose. Disgusting.
I've read a lot about this epidemic recently. And ... (show quote)


I want to see a LIST of the doctors in your area alone that have lost their licenses, or is that just FAKE hype?
Yes it a big problem but I don’t know even one person that is on those drugs, or have heard of a doctor in my area that has lost their license, or elsewhere for that matter!
SS

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Feb 24, 2018 20:02:51   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
burkphoto wrote:
Yep. America is addicted to Vicodin. It’s insidiously evil... even more so because Big Pharma/Big Med “legitimizes” it. But so is tobacco evil, yet for very different reasons.


In 2007 I had severe bursitis in both shoulders. My orthopedic surgeon did prescribe vicodin for me, and it was the only way that I could get to sleep. At a certain point, though, he cut me off. You can't believe how angry I was, especially since he didn't want to do surgery on the one shoulder that required surgery until I had neck surgery for a pinched nerve which was causing pain to go down my arm. He wasn't sure how much pain was from the bursitis and how much was from the pinched nerve....until he finally did the surgery. However, I was able to get relief from a great physical therapist. Long story short, the point being that it all goes back on the doctor. In my case he cut me off. I do realize in the case of some patients with much more serious pain situations than mine than pain meds needed for a much longer term, including the more addictive ones like oxycodin. I never did feel an addiction towards vicodin. It just seemed like stronger tylenol to me.

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Feb 24, 2018 21:19:09   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
SharpShooter wrote:
I want to see a LIST of the doctors in your area alone that have lost their licenses, or is that just FAKE hype?
Yes it a big problem but I don’t know even one person that is on those drugs, or have heard of a doctor in my area that has lost their license, or elsewhere for that matter!
SS


That's because you live in the land of fruits and nuts you idiot. I'll dig a little tomorrow and give you a list. Then again maybe not. I might set myself up for a lawsuit. If I can prove a conviction and loss of license I'll post it. It would be public knowledge and published so I should be in the clear. I've got to cover my ass with all of these ambulance chasing attorneys running around. Most of them liberals like the ones working for the ACLU and SPLC. You do know what the SPLC is don't you? What a joke.

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Feb 24, 2018 21:22:37   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
SharpShooter wrote:
I want to see a LIST of the doctors in your area alone that have lost their licenses, or is that just FAKE hype?
Yes it a big problem but I don’t know even one person that is on those drugs, or have heard of a doctor in my area that has lost their license, or elsewhere for that matter!
SS


So you don't know a person on those drugs. Neither do I. Does that mean there is not a problem. Maybe the whole f**ckin Time article was faux news. Damn you're an idiot. I don't know why I waste my time.

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Feb 24, 2018 21:29:05   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
SteveR wrote:
In 2007 I had severe bursitis in both shoulders. My orthopedic surgeon did prescribe vicodin for me, and it was the only way that I could get to sleep. At a certain point, though, he cut me off. You can't believe how angry I was, especially since he didn't want to do surgery on the one shoulder that required surgery until I had neck surgery for a pinched nerve which was causing pain to go down my arm. He wasn't sure how much pain was from the bursitis and how much was from the pinched nerve....until he finally did the surgery. However, I was able to get relief from a great physical therapist. Long story short, the point being that it all goes back on the doctor. In my case he cut me off. I do realize in the case of some patients with much more serious pain situations than mine than pain meds needed for a much longer term, including the more addictive ones like oxycodin. I never did feel an addiction towards vicodin. It just seemed like stronger tylenol to me.
In 2007 I had severe bursitis in both shoulders. ... (show quote)


You might have been one of the lucky ones who was cut off before a serious addiction. I commend your doctor for that. I've never taken any of the medicines in question so I have no idea about addiction to them. I've dealt with plenty of pain but never turned to medicine other than over the counter.

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Feb 24, 2018 21:59:06   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
SharpShooter wrote:
I want to see a LIST of the doctors in your area alone that have lost their licenses, or is that just FAKE hype?
Yes it a big problem but I don’t know even one person that is on those drugs, or have heard of a doctor in my area that has lost their license, or elsewhere for that matter!
SS


A pill pusher in the Dallas area quite readily admitted that he would diagnose somebody's illness in 20 seconds and write a prescription for oxy for them...on camera. His license was yanked very quickly. I would certainly hope that those pharmacies that are nothing but drug dealers and the doctors who write the prescriptions that they fill are shut down. I don't know why it hasn't happened already. Some of the companies making the meds need to be held criminally responsible as well.

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Feb 24, 2018 22:12:44   #
JPringle Loc: Australia
 
SteveR wrote:
As much press as mass shootings are getting, this is one area where so many lives are being senselessly lost that could be saved with proper oversight and governance. It's beyond me that we have fought a war on drugs and yet one of the most devastating drugs is being manufactured and sold legally.


Whoops - I thought this was referencing alcohol

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Feb 24, 2018 22:18:59   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
JPringle wrote:
Whoops - I thought this was referencing alcohol


Well....how many does that one kill and how many lives and families does it destroy? Better never to touch it.

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Feb 24, 2018 22:29:31   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
SharpShooter wrote:
I want to see a LIST of the doctors in your area alone that have lost their licenses, or is that just FAKE hype?
Yes it a big problem but I don’t know even one person that is on those drugs, or have heard of a doctor in my area that has lost their license, or elsewhere for that matter!
SS


Hey, SS, my own mother was clinically addicted to Vicodin by an a$$hole incompetent doctor who had “accidentally” infected her hip with MRSA during a cortisone injection. 15 years later, she died. Her last 12 years were pretty grim. Please don’t be so f*cking glib. She was a vegetable most of the time, in and out of lucidity. Miserable existence...

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Feb 24, 2018 23:05:04   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
burkphoto wrote:
Hey, SS, my own mother was clinically addicted to Vicodin by an a$$hole incompetent doctor who had “accidentally” infected her hip with MRSA during a cortisone injection. 15 years later, she died. Her last 12 years were pretty grim. Please don’t be so f*cking glib. She was a vegetable most of the time, in and out of lucidity. Miserable existence...


I'm sorry to hear about your Mom, Burk.

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Feb 24, 2018 23:18:03   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
SteveR wrote:
I'm sorry to hear about your Mom, Burk.


Thanks. She passed away in 2011.

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Feb 24, 2018 23:18:54   #
TucsonCoyote Loc: Tucson AZ
 
SteveR wrote:
........................At a certain point, though, he cut me off. You can't believe how angry I was .................. I never did feel an addiction towards vicodin. It just seemed like stronger tylenol to me.

Lol ................what a fucking tool !

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Feb 24, 2018 23:56:03   #
PH CIB
 
I am getting to the point that if I need a drug that I insist on some old fashioned tried and true drug that has been around for a while,,,,I hate all the drug commercials and do not trust the new drugs that I have never heard of,,,I do research on every drug I take even though I am only on two different blood pressure medicines....

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Feb 25, 2018 02:18:55   #
DJ Mills Loc: Idaho
 
Thanks for posting this link. I'm sending it to my children so they can use it with my grandchildren. This should be required reading in every classroom in America. It may be the finest thing Time has ever published.
DJM

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Feb 25, 2018 06:47:12   #
PhotosByCat Loc: Baltimore, OH
 
BB4A wrote:
Absolutely agree.

I travel regularly, and I'm also amazed when I get back to the US and find EVEN MORE drug advertising on TV... It doesn't happen anywhere else in the World (most countries restrict advertising to over-the-counter drugs).

If the drug companies took just one month of that advertising budget and gave that to an EMT and LEO supported Charitable Medical Facility to take the initiative in treatment and reviewing the "why's and how's?" of people descending into and then climbing out of this addiction epidemic, then just maybe, we'd start to see a way out of this crisis? If nothing else, it would probably fund the treatment for a thousand or more human beings in crisis, which would be a damn sight better use of that advertising money, than trying to convince me every 10 minutes that I have some obscure disease and need to tell my doctor to prescribe for me some even more obscure drug?



I remember when drug advertising first was on TV. It was so strange to see a commercial they went thru potential side effects. Here, take this pill for joint pain but be leery of potential headaches, nausea, cancer, etc, etc. It seemed the side effects were worse than the initial problem.
How can we help people over their need to self-medicate with something, anything, when every other advert (I swear on some channels it's more than 50%!) we see on TV is counselling us to ask for a drug to immediately, painlessly fix our problem?
Absolutely agree. br br I travel regularly, and ... (show quote)

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