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Feb 9, 2018 08:14:58   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
WessoJPEG wrote:
I've been taking pictures of our league bowling. Should I use Matrix or Center weighted Metering.
I forgot and left camera on Spot Metering, wasn't to good. D7200. Thanks.


If your lighting is even, set the camera to manual exposure, measure your brightest highlight that you want detail in, add 1 stop to that reading, and use that for all of your images. Be careful of cycling lights, like halogen, LED or fluorescent. Exposures shorter than 2X the frequency of 60hz, will result in uneven lighting and/or color balance issues, sometimes even in the same image - as the light cycles. So make sure your Flicker Reduction setting is turned on, and always take a few test shots.

If you have uneven lighting, matrix might be the best.

Shooting raw in uneven lighting may improve your results.

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Feb 9, 2018 08:25:47   #
rdubreuil Loc: Dummer, NH USA
 
WessoJPEG wrote:
When you use spot metering when you hit a dark spot or a light spot the exposure changes. Just wanted to know what the Pros use Matrix or Center weighted. But on most of the Pros ignore list.😨😆😅


Not if you use the AE lock. That allows you to spot meter an area of your scene, lock the exposure and recompose. If you're using BBF you can assign the AE lock to the half press of your shutter button that used to do the task of focusing before you went to BBF, or program another of your function buttons to do it as an on or off button.

I prefer the half press myself as its quicker when shooting changing action scenes, also less likely to forget it's on and screw up some other shoot because the settings were wrong. As for the question on which to use, if the whole scene isn't the most important thing in the composition, center or spot on the bowlers where you'll be capturing them. This should give you good results while panning the bowlers. If you're not panning the bowlers on their approach, you can meter the area where you want to capture the images, probably use one of the bowlers with the brightest team shirts so you'll know you're not blowing out high lights, then set yourself a focus trap say at the release line from a position that best captures the bowler in action and shoot away.

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Feb 9, 2018 08:42:14   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
Gene51 wrote:
If your lighting is even, set the camera to manual exposure, measure your brightest highlight that you want detail in, add 1 stop to that reading, and use that for all of your images. Be careful of cycling lights, like halogen, LED or fluorescent. Exposures shorter than 2X the frequency of 60hz, will result in uneven lighting and/or color balance issues, sometimes even in the same image - as the light cycles. So make sure your Flicker Reduction setting is turned on, and always take a few test shots.

If you have uneven lighting, matrix might be the best.

Shooting raw in uneven lighting may improve your results.
If your lighting is even, set the camera to manual... (show quote)


Thanks Gene, gonna go with matrix, will post one in a couple of weeks.☺

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Feb 9, 2018 08:42:56   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
rdubreuil wrote:
Not if you use the AE lock. That allows you to spot meter an area of your scene, lock the exposure and recompose. If you're using BBF you can assign the AE lock to the half press of your shutter button that used to do the task of focusing before you went to BBF, or program another of your function buttons to do it as an on or off button.

I prefer the half press myself as its quicker when shooting changing action scenes, also less likely to forget it's on and screw up some other shoot because the settings were wrong. As for the question on which to use, if the whole scene isn't the most important thing in the composition, center or spot on the bowlers where you'll be capturing them. This should give you good results while panning the bowlers. If you're not panning the bowlers on their approach, you can meter the area where you want to capture the images, probably use one of the bowlers with the brightest team shirts so you'll know you're not blowing out high lights, then set yourself a focus trap say at the release line from a position that best captures the bowler in action and shoot away.
Not if you use the AE lock. That allows you to sp... (show quote)


Good info, thanks.☺

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Feb 9, 2018 08:56:16   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
WessoJPEG wrote:
I've been taking pictures of our league bowling. Should I use Matrix or Center weighted Metering.
I forgot and left camera on Spot Metering, wasn't to good. D7200. Thanks.


Read the manual; when all else fails use matrix. Center-weight aims for center mass and you have more of a moving target and more of a group shot.

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Feb 9, 2018 09:04:34   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
via the lens wrote:
Read the manual; when all else fails use matrix. Center-weight aims for center mass and you have more of a moving target and more of a group shot.


Thanks. 😂

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Feb 9, 2018 09:24:32   #
tomc601 Loc: Gilbert, AZ
 
You're indoors. The lighting doesn't change. Take a test shot. Check the exposure and adjust if needed. Set the camera to M and put the shutter speed and f stop from your test shot and forget about it.

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Feb 9, 2018 09:37:50   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
tomc601 wrote:
You're indoors. The lighting doesn't change. Take a test shot. Check the exposure and adjust if needed. Set the camera to M and put the shutter speed and f stop from your test shot and forget about it.


Not so, with spot metering, like if it's on a white shirt when I click. It will be dark. If on a dark shirt it will be light. Hard to expose in Spot when subject is moving g fast.😆

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Feb 9, 2018 10:37:39   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
WessoJPEG wrote:
Thanks Gene, gonna go with matrix, will post one in a couple of weeks.☺


Hope it works for you. I am interested in seeing how you made out.

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Feb 9, 2018 11:14:28   #
d3200prime
 
Here is a new section on UHH: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-129-1.html where you can get help from pros. Maybe you haven't insulted ALL the pros.

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Feb 9, 2018 11:44:40   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
d3200prime wrote:
Here is a new section on UHH: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-129-1.html where you can get help from pros. Maybe you haven't insulted ALL the pros.


Thanks, don't mean to insult anyone.😢😨

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Feb 9, 2018 11:47:33   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
LWW wrote:
I use matrix metering nearly 100% of the time, I occasionally use spot merging ... but in much different lighting such as an illuminated subject in an otherwise dark setting, I honestly can't tell you the last time I used counterweighted metering on a camera with matrix available.

The matric=x system in my 30 year old F4s is still awesome, newer ones are even better.


ThanksLWW.👍👌

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Feb 9, 2018 12:59:40   #
The Watcher
 
I would suggest that the OP and some others here brush on the use of histograms. Understanding how they work and what they should look like for a given scene makes them the on-site ace in the hole when it comes to metering.

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Feb 9, 2018 13:28:48   #
tomc601 Loc: Gilbert, AZ
 
tomc601 wrote:
You're indoors. The lighting doesn't change. Take a test shot. Check the exposure and adjust if needed. Set the camera to M and put the shutter speed and f stop from your test shot and forget about it.


You missed my point. If you're on Manual you're not metering anymore. The exposure remains constant.

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Feb 9, 2018 13:43:14   #
d3200prime
 
WessoJPEG wrote:
Thanks, don't mean to insult anyone.😢😨


"When you use spot metering when you hit a dark spot or a light spot the exposure changes. Just wanted to know what the Pros use Matrix or Center-weighted. But on most of the Pros ignore list."

Don't know what was said but I would suggest you offer an olive branch to get back in the Pros good graces. Their help is invaluable and what's so good is it's unbiased.

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