Stupid questions, stupid answers, and moderated sections
Feb 5, 2018 15:41:14 #
I note the the ask experts forum is set up to block replies. If I post and have a follow up question I can not ask it. Ho hum.
Feb 5, 2018 15:42:11 #
Ron - rather than repeating rules, why don't you spend some quality time on the following:
1. Now that you've finished the documenting all your rules and requirements in repeated and repetitive posts, go back and delete the various posts and consolidate into a single and concise entry in the section FAQ.
2. Consider a peer review. You've already let a blowhard onto the team who wrote a page of nothing as a response without addressing the underlying issue: if your pictures aren't interesting, get closer ... You're team is only as good as the weakest member.
By walling off your section from the people who open the digest every morning and just open the links and respond to the OP ... you've doomed yourself to failure. It's not consistent with the overall site nor does your section recognize how people use the site. You probably should revisit your definition of the problem you're trying to fix. Is it a problem? Is this section the fix?
1. Now that you've finished the documenting all your rules and requirements in repeated and repetitive posts, go back and delete the various posts and consolidate into a single and concise entry in the section FAQ.
2. Consider a peer review. You've already let a blowhard onto the team who wrote a page of nothing as a response without addressing the underlying issue: if your pictures aren't interesting, get closer ... You're team is only as good as the weakest member.
By walling off your section from the people who open the digest every morning and just open the links and respond to the OP ... you've doomed yourself to failure. It's not consistent with the overall site nor does your section recognize how people use the site. You probably should revisit your definition of the problem you're trying to fix. Is it a problem? Is this section the fix?
Feb 5, 2018 15:44:50 #
John_F wrote:
I note the the ask experts forum is set up to block replies. If I post and have a follow up question I can not ask it. Ho hum.
You are not keeping up. They are making it possible for the OP to reply.
HO hum ...
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Feb 5, 2018 15:45:29 #
John_F wrote:
I note the the ask experts forum is set up to block replies. If I post and have a follow up question I can not ask it. Ho hum.
The designer didn't understand how the software for the site works ... They think they've developed a workaround, one that is more work for them. I hope they're being paid something more than attaboys and bitcoins for their efforts.
Feb 5, 2018 15:46:21 #
Bill_de wrote:
Any question asked out of ignorance looking for a ... (show quote)
You can always have a discussion with a specific individual at any time on any forum - by sending a personal message.
Feb 5, 2018 15:47:06 #
John_F wrote:
I note the the ask experts forum is set up to block replies. If I post and have a follow up question I can not ask it. Ho hum.
I will always take a question in a PM.
Feb 5, 2018 15:47:10 #
BB4A wrote:
I thought the whole point of a forum was that it was a place where “We” (interested parties in the topics posted on the forum) could meet, exchange ideas, and hopefully learn something new or interesting about our shared interest?
I thought the whole point of a forum was that it was a place where “We” (interested parties in the topics posted on the forum) could meet, exchange ideas, and hopefully learn something new or interesting about our shared interest?
The new section is NOT a forum. It is another special section that one may go to for specific help. It’s controled by a moderator which will decide how it works and who will participate, and how, as well as who won’t.
I’ve always had a problem with the moderated sections as they seem to quickly develope into those that are and are not accepted.
Some of the sections are more forum-like because they were started by admin and are NOT controled by a moderator, such as Chit-Chat, the Attic and the Nude Section. It seems those sections have more participation because of the free uncontrolled freewheeling forum-like participation.
Any new section in theory should be a good thing, let’s see how this one shakes out.
Of course, most here never seem to know those sections exist!!!
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Feb 5, 2018 15:47:25 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Ron - rather than repeating rules, why don't you s... (show quote)
As I said, you appear to have a chip on your shoulder as you do not want to read or acknowledge anything. That is your choice.
Peer review is already going one but you are not paying attention.
Each page is short for the simple reason that no one reads beyond the first post so a long thread full of stuff will not work. Offering interlinked documents work much better.
Feb 5, 2018 15:49:51 #
Gene51 wrote:
You can always have a discussion with a specific individual at any time on any forum - by sending a personal message.
That's true, but would defeat the whole purpose of the new section.
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Feb 5, 2018 15:50:02 #
If you don't like the messenger, too bad you've missed the serious and actionable feedback ... to your loss.
I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in recognizing this as your attempt to create a more effective ignore list. Your participating moderators don't seem to know you well enough to see the same before leading their good names to this faulty endevor.
I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in recognizing this as your attempt to create a more effective ignore list. Your participating moderators don't seem to know you well enough to see the same before leading their good names to this faulty endevor.
Feb 5, 2018 15:53:06 #
The main problem that I have with a lot of the answers in the various forums is they don' answer the OPs question.
Some of the answers look like the responder did not read, or understand, the question.
Others are where the OP ask about A vs B and the responder answers 'C'.
There is nothing wrong with recommending a third choice in and of itself, but in my opinion, you should first answer the original question.
"I think A is a better choice than B and you might also want to look at C."
Some of the answers look like the responder did not read, or understand, the question.
Others are where the OP ask about A vs B and the responder answers 'C'.
There is nothing wrong with recommending a third choice in and of itself, but in my opinion, you should first answer the original question.
"I think A is a better choice than B and you might also want to look at C."
Feb 5, 2018 15:54:01 #
Feb 5, 2018 15:58:22 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
If you don't like the messenger, too bad you've missed the serious and actionable feedback ... to your loss.
I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in recognizing this as your attempt to create a more effective ignore list. Your participating moderators don't seem to know you well enough to see the same before leading their good names to this faulty endevor.
I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in recognizing this as your attempt to create a more effective ignore list. Your participating moderators don't seem to know you well enough to see the same before leading their good names to this faulty endevor.
So, the truth becomes personal then. Tell me then why there is at least one moderator in there who just does not like me at all?
Oh, and why do you think I sate that moderators will not participate as mentor that the 'position' in incompatible with the free flow of information from the mentors? I considered my reputation first. I saw it as a problem so I removed myself and all the future moderators in the process.
Ignore list indeed.
By the way, I do have a 'personal section' and really so where folks are definitively banned. It was reactivated for that very purpose.
Feb 5, 2018 16:03:13 #
As the OP for this thread, I did not intend it to be a discussion about the new 'Advice from the Pros' section. Personally I consider that to be a good thing that may prove to be very valuable, and I see very few downsides to it. I would hope that it becomes very successful.
My intent was to ask questions about the sometimes anarchic discussions in open sections such as the main photography discussion section, the nature of questions that get asked, the motivations for asking those questions, and the equivalent for the responses that are made. Perhaps I worded my initial question poorly. There is already an existing thread for discussing 'Advice from the Pros', and perhaps comments relating to that would be better directed there: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-511614-1.html
My intent was to ask questions about the sometimes anarchic discussions in open sections such as the main photography discussion section, the nature of questions that get asked, the motivations for asking those questions, and the equivalent for the responses that are made. Perhaps I worded my initial question poorly. There is already an existing thread for discussing 'Advice from the Pros', and perhaps comments relating to that would be better directed there: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-511614-1.html
Feb 5, 2018 16:04:31 #
How do we know when a question has been settled? Sometimes an answer is evidently the correct one but doesn't get acknowledged as such and the conversation rambles on adding incorrect and often extraneous material to the thread. Is a referee called for?
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