Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

These developments take time, then they have to be brought market successfully, then people usually take time to see how they do, and eventually the changes occur, but it is a slow process. It may be fun to bash Canon and Nikon for being slow, but they also have the most to lose.

I also added the latest CIPA data to my previous post in this thread, it doesn't cover everything, but does give an idea of how slowly changes like this occur.

speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho

There are viewfinders like that as well, they slip in the hot shoe and don't need a cable, as the contacts in the hot shoe provide all its needed, many companies carry them!

blackest Loc: Ireland

I am not finding anything. Would you know a product name or have a link?

thank you

PhotosBySteve

I believe you, I'm convinced.

1Feathercrest Loc: NEPA

Generating of the electricity to charge an electric car, negates the economy the electric proclaims. Most electric generation relies on fossil fuel. Exceptions are in place but construction of such is enormously expensive.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

Getting back on topic, I believe the primary benefit of MILC ultimately is the EVF, the more reliable focusing, and the very high burst rate possible.

TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA

What is the difference between "shutterless" and "electronic shutter"? In essence, they (at east Olympus and Panasonic, I do not know about the others) already have it. The physical shutter is not used when in silent mode,

BebuLamar

They are the same but what I meant is that there is not yet a serious camera that doesn't have a mechanical shutter. There are still disadvantages of the electronic shutters that has to be overcome for a sucessful camera without a mechanical shutter.

blackest Loc: Ireland

Electricity generation is by many different sources, and you can't tell the difference between electricity generated by coal, wind , water , oil, gas, or nuclear. As an end user your main interest is the milage you get for your buck. With a dual fuel system like the Prius you get to reclaim the energy you lose as heat when braking, when stuck in stop start traffic you only use power to move while you are moving, your engine isn't idling and burning fuel for the sake of being there.

Running of battery power is a pain if you need to sit and wait for a charge , but if you can just plugin when you get home at night and you have a full charge in the morning and thats enough to take you where you are going its not really an issue. Many utilities offer a better price for electricity at night which you can take advantage of.

An electric car can suit a lot of people if they are not driving 100's of miles each day, reducing demand for petrol also reduces the price at the pump so when you do need a gas engine it's going to cost you less. Many high speed rail lines are electric maybe because the train doesn't need to carry large quantities of fuel , which requires large quantities of fuel to move...

Meganephron Loc: Fort Worth, TX

Since I rarely shoot anything but RAW, I know what to expect in an image, a fairly flat image that I have total control over and I can make it look like I want on a 27 in screen that matches my 8 pigment printer perfectly. I can control the ICC for whatever paper I choose. The bells and whistles of a mirrorless camera would mean nothing to me. I enjoy the post production process. I’m not sure what the HDR process is like in a mirrorless camera.

Stan Gould Loc: La Crosse, Wisconsin

Go to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AlndKQSs6Q for a video on a Mercedes Benz car that runs on AA batteries. Quite humorous. If the link does not work, simply conduct a search using <aa battery operated car> as search terms and numerous links will appear. Enjoy!

Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina

Electricity can come from many sources as you say but the costs of those sources can vary widely, very widely. Saying that the main interest is mileage is a very broad generalization. If that were true there would be a lot more high mileage cars on the road. If fact there are other factors of doing work, creature comfort, safety and many others that determine which vehicle is right for a person, business or family. Electric is convenient in some very limited environments. But with a lack of supporting infrastructure it is very limited and perhaps downright unusable.

As to railroads the move to electric was very big a hundred years ago. The problem is that the infrastructure construction and maintenance is a huge cost that in today's world doesn't make sense unless the operation is being subsidized by the government. Diesel electric locomotives offer good economy and great flexibility. I don't believe there are any common carrier electric freight railroads left in the USA. The costs are simply not justified. The cost of moving the fuel in a train is trivial. Let's say a full locomotive carries 5,000 gallons or roughly 40,000 pounds of diesel. If you have 4 locomotives on a train that full 20,000 gallons of fuel would be about the same as 1 typical loaded freight car. When we are talking trains of 6,000 to 15,000 tons weight that is not significant at all.

Reducing the use of something does not reduce the price necessarily. I have been buying electricity for 40 years and the price doesn't go down. Now maybe it also has not gone up as much as it could, but simple supply and demand economics apply here. If prices get too high, new alternatives and efficiency will be introduced. Of course Tesla may have discovered free electricity for all too...and wouldn't that be nice...

Best,
Todd Ferguson

blackest Loc: Ireland

Electricity tends to always be in demand unless we are sleeping (here midnight to 7am) when the price can be less than half that in the day time.
Of course they add an extra meter and standing charge to cut the benefit ... However for an electric car charging at home could be practical, driving range is going up all the time time with 300 miles not being uncommon commuting to the city for me is 60miles a day so i could maybe need a charge twice a week. Driving to Dublin about 150 Miles so I would probably want to recharge overnight there...

Under most circumstances for me an Electric car would be fine. The other interest of course is cost if i get twice as many miles from an electric car for the same money spent on gas then that is a worthwhile saving.

A friend had his car converted to run on lpg and petrol they tend to put the lpg tank where the spare wheel normally goes. LPG sells for around half the price of petrol, the places supplying LPG are nowhere near as common as regular petrol stations but still was worth while with the saving in cost.

Anyway production of Electric cars is slated to be mainstream by 2040 which may be too late for some of us to see but it is coming. Population is growing too around 7.5 billion people now compared with around 3 Billion in 1960. Thats an ever increasing demand for fossil fuels and we are using them up faster than they were ever created. Most of the easy oil has been tapped and burnt already...

Personally the best savings on energy are to use it more efficiently. My laptop is not particularly efficient using 60 watts but beats my desktop at 400 watts. the light i'm sitting under is 4watts 10 years or so ago it would have been 60watt or higher.

JimRPhoto Loc: Raleigh NC

Hi PH. As with many engineered things, there are other factors that would need to be considered. At first look, it does sound simple - just remove the mirror. However, I have a nice secondary camera - the Lumix with a non-changeable lens. The primary viewfinder is the LED screen, and most times it works great. But they put an optical view finder on that camera too, so somehow they engineer it so that you can switch. If Nikon and Canon took away the mirror, they would then need to engineer another way to get the image from the lens to the optical viewfinder. And other comments to your post/question point out that there are other features that the manufacturer adds to the mirrorless camera, over and above the removal of the mirror. I would guess that at some point they will be able to simplify the variation, as you suggest. Best. JR

PH CIB

Thank You Everyone,,,This has been an informative, entertaining and amusing ride…years ago I got caught up in one of the firearm or military forums in the debate on iron sights versus red dot sights…As an ex combat soldier who has seen a couple of dozen firefights longest lasted four hours most were extremely short and violent affairs lasting only minutes instead of hours and as I cut my teeth on iron sights I was totally against red dot sights as were many others,,,battery could fail at a life saving moment,,,electronics could fail at a critical time,,,the sights themselves could fail and were not as robust as iron sights…I and the others who I sided with were proven wrong,,,hand a rifle with a red dot sight or a low magnification scope on it to a newbie and tell them to put the red dot or the cross hairs on the target and pull the trigger, almost no learning curve, anyone can do it and the sights have proven themselves in combat in reliability and faster and more accurate target acquisition…old habits die hard I still have iron sights on almost all my rifles with scopes or red dots. Most of us are probably of the old school thinking mechanical reliability is greater than electronic reliability and I love prisms and mirrors and optical viewfinders and the quality of Nikon and Canon and Zeiss and Leica and Swarovski glass but the times they are a changing and probably someday the total benefits of an EVF will outweigh the total benefits of an Optical Viewfinder….I guess at that time Canon and Nikon will jump in with both feet…