I Don't Understand Canon and Nikon
Dec 12, 2017 22:26:59 #
I am not an Engineer or a Scientist…but it would seem to me that Nikon and Canon could just take their recent models like the Nikon D850 and the Canon 5D Mark IV and offer a mirror less version of each…in the mirror less version just taking out the Mirror and putting in an excellent EVF….the Flange Length could be kept the same so all current Lenses from Both Companies would work without any kind of adaptor and the EVF would read off the sensor or a bank of sensors of it's own…I don't see any reason for Canon and Nikon to develop a separate line of mirror less Cameras and Lenses as the lenses for Full Frame and Crop Sensor Cameras have to be relatively large to cover the sensor and a large camera makes it easier to handle those lenses on camera….also You really do not get that much smaller and lighter in mirror less unless You go to Micro Four Thirds or the Nikon 1 System Cameras with the one inch sensor ,,,So Why not equip current models in the Nikon and Canon line up with the option to buy the Camera with an Optical Viewfinder or an EVF ???
Dec 12, 2017 22:39:01 #
You do not? Really?
What is to understand other than they are in the business of making $$$?
What is to understand other than they are in the business of making $$$?
Dec 12, 2017 22:43:51 #
PH CIB wrote:
I am not an Engineer or a Scientist…but it would s... (show quote)
When one of them does that, the other will follow. Have patience
Dec 12, 2017 22:48:57 #
If the camera size and weight remain basically unchanged is there anything to be gained?
Dec 13, 2017 00:01:32 #
letmedance wrote:
If the camera size and weight remain basically unchanged is there anything to be gained?
Yes there is. There are all sorts of functional goodies that come with mirrorless technology. In Canon land take a look at what Magic Lantern adds to Canon DSLRs. http://www.magiclantern.fm/
Dec 13, 2017 01:18:06 #
Peterff wrote:
Yes there is. There are all sorts of functional goodies that come with mirrorless technology. In Canon land take a look at what Magic Lantern adds to Canon DSLRs. http://www.magiclantern.fm/
There are some positives to mirrorless tech, but autofocus is faster and battery life longer with the optical viewfinder. Most of the mirrorless advantage really already exists with liveview.
Kinda surprising nobody has developed an electronic viewfinder which plugs into the hdmi port of many DSLR's It probably wouldn't be hard to have "liveview" in a viewfinder maybe just sat on the hot shoe...
Dec 13, 2017 01:28:50 #
The purpose of the Mirroless is to reduce size and weight, all those goodies are already in the DSLR cameras. The Mirroless cameras are quieter and usually capture bursts in faster frame rates due to absence of the mirror, but their main selling point is size and weight.
Dec 13, 2017 01:49:28 #
PH CIB wrote:
I am not an Engineer or a Scientist…but it would s... (show quote)
Both companies have applied for patents regarding designs of ff mirrorless cameras, so they're working on it!
Dec 13, 2017 01:49:54 #
PH CIB wrote:
I am not an Engineer or a Scientist…but it would s... (show quote)
It seems to me that every car company could just take out the engine and put in a battery and an electric motor and we could almost end pollution and buying gas...., but I'm no engineer either!!!
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Dec 13, 2017 01:53:24 #
blackest wrote:
There are some positives to mirrorless tech, but autofocus is faster and battery life longer with the optical viewfinder. Most of the mirrorless advantage really already exists with liveview.
Kinda surprising nobody has developed an electronic viewfinder which plugs into the hdmi port of many DSLR's It probably wouldn't be hard to have "liveview" in a viewfinder maybe just sat on the hot shoe...
Kinda surprising nobody has developed an electronic viewfinder which plugs into the hdmi port of many DSLR's It probably wouldn't be hard to have "liveview" in a viewfinder maybe just sat on the hot shoe...
There are latterly hundreds of monitors like that out there (that sit on the hot shoe, but can be placed nearly anywhere)! They've been on the market for more then 20 years!
Dec 13, 2017 02:02:19 #
speters wrote:
There are latterly hundreds of monitors like that out there (that sit on the hot shoe, but can be placed nearly anywhere)! They've been on the market for more then 20 years!
I eas thinking of a viewfinder rather than a monitor mostly i'm seeing 3 1/2" 5"screens with a loupe and really expensive at that. with pretty low battery life. fair number of field monitors but nothing comparable to day an evf in a m43 camera.
Dec 13, 2017 05:23:40 #
letmedance wrote:
The purpose of the Mirroless is to reduce size and weight, all those goodies are already in the DSLR cameras. The Mirroless cameras are quieter and usually capture bursts in faster frame rates due to absence of the mirror, but their main selling point is size and weight.
That appears to be the case for the aging demographic of UHH, and is also a factor with smaller sensors. It wouldn't make much difference at a system level with full frame mirrorless cameras.
There is more to take into consideration than just getting rid of mirrors.
Dec 13, 2017 05:31:49 #
blackest wrote:
There are some positives to mirrorless tech, but autofocus is faster and battery life longer with the optical viewfinder. Most of the mirrorless advantage really already exists with liveview.
Kinda surprising nobody has developed an electronic viewfinder which plugs into the hdmi port of many DSLR's It probably wouldn't be hard to have "liveview" in a viewfinder maybe just sat on the hot shoe...
Kinda surprising nobody has developed an electronic viewfinder which plugs into the hdmi port of many DSLR's It probably wouldn't be hard to have "liveview" in a viewfinder maybe just sat on the hot shoe...
I think that kind of tech change is coming, but isn't generally available yet for a number of reasons. The market is definitely in a transition phase.
Dec 13, 2017 05:50:40 #
i'm quite sure canon and Nikon have already figured out how to produce a mirrorless camera that will be profitable. like sony they will offer new features. some of which were not possible on current models.
Dec 13, 2017 06:06:12 #
PH CIB wrote:
I am not an Engineer or a Scientist…but it would s... (show quote)
I don't know about Canon but I understand how Nikon would feel. In 1959 they put the mirror into their Nikon SP and made it the Nikon F. The rest is history. Now you tell them to take the mirror out of their Nikon D??????
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