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Nov 18, 2017 07:34:53   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
The photo-editing software brings out the potential of a photograph.
Gene51 wrote:
Maybe on the wrong message.

I/m pretty sure that being busy learning new, complicated editing software and taking pictures are mutually exclusive. Accountants, attorneys, doctors, auto mechanics, teachers, etc - all have to periodically engage in professional development/ongoing training in order to remain at the top of their game. If such were not the case, you'd NEVER see me taking an airplane!

So why not photographers?

I can assure you, I don't let learning new software ever get in the way of taking pictures. The only thing that gets in the way are the "honey do" things that come up on a regular basis. One does have to maintain priorities . . .

As far as spending any time on learning software - if it makes me a better photographer - or put another way, able produce finer images - it is worth every second.
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Nov 18, 2017 07:43:48   #
Shakey Loc: Traveling again to Norway and other places.
 
suntouched wrote:
I have tried recent versions of DXO, Luminar and Affinity and don't find them to be at all intuitive. As a matter of fact I sat there stating at the DXO screen for 5 minutes trying to figure out how to load a photo to edit and it was downhill from there.

I don't enjoy post processing and would rather be taking pictures than learning new from scratch, complicated, editing software. So for now I will keep on using Bridge, Camera Raw, PS, (and OnOne) and pay the fees. My fees haven't risen more than 2.00 a month (if that) over the past 5 years. There is no guarantee that the aforementioned companies will still be around 5 years from now anyway and if they are, who knows what their fees will end up being. Or they could decide that the lease option is the way to go too.

And there is always PS Elements (with video editing) as a stand alone to purchase.

Anyone else feel the same?
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If you are not a fan of post processing you may prefer a program with plenty of presets, which will lighten the load when working with your images. On1 has a full program free giveaway at: https://www.on1.com/promo/0517-effects/ . There are additional presets available online plus plenty of tutorials on Youtube to get you started. You'll soon grasp the way to use the basic five or six tools. If you want to invest in the latest 2018 version that's your choice. Many programs are trying provide a quick and easy way to post process images. Have fun hunting for them. Enjoy.

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Nov 18, 2017 07:59:13   #
Morning Star Loc: West coast, North of the 49th N.
 
photodoc16 wrote:
Suntouched,
What amazing timing. I am going through the same evaluation of photo editors right now and it certainly is not easy. Since ON-1 RAW 2018 is a possibility, I was interested that you are looking for something that offers more or performs better. Could you enlighten me about your dissatisfactions? If you read the comments on DPReview about ON-1 it seems as if no one is completely happy with anything. I have been using Elements 13 for a while and it does a decent job but lacks features that I am ready for.
Thank you,
Photodoc16
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Suntouched and Photodoc,
I've heard rumours that PSE is also going to the cloud model in the near future. If so, that will be the end of that one for me. I will keep the latest standalone version I have on my computer.
I just got PSE2018 last week, haven't played much with it yet, because of current priorities.
However, if you want more features for PSE, they can be had for US$12.00 from < http://elementsplus.net/ >
Easy to install, and adds a number of PS features to PSE. You can download and install the demo version, which contains only a couple of the features, to get an idea of what it's like.

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Nov 18, 2017 08:04:26   #
fotobyferg
 
suntouched, I am right with you.

I have always been the geek in my house, despite having two adult children that grew up during the “digital revolution”.

However, as I get older, have gone through cancer, hip, shoulder, neck and knee surgeries (that took years out of my life and still affect my abilities to this day) I have become less and less willing to climb those often-time steep learning curves associated with new software.

I want to travel to exotic locations...and have. I want to ride and drive my horses. I want to sail endlessly beautiful summer days or zip around in our little wooden antique powerboat on a cool, crisp fall day. I want to visit with my kids. I want to live!

I do NOT want to sit at home learning software programs for better image editing of pictues I have no desire or intention of selling.

I give my watermarked photos away because that’s what I enjoy doing, and many happy high school wrestlers, adult rugby team players, and outdoor loving horsemen sincerely apprecite my efforts despite them not being highly edited.

Good composition and knowledge of your subject matter goes far and, more importantly, works for little ol’ novice photographer me!

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Nov 18, 2017 08:14:32   #
cmcaroffino Loc: Sebring, FL
 
Yes I agree with you. I enjoy shooting RAW and playing around with the processing and can certainly see the value of shooting RAW but there are other times I don't want to mess with that and just shoot JPEG and run them through Perfectly Clear V3 which does a great job of improving my pictures. I do a lot of event photography for the community I live in and its much easier to shoot JPEG>Perfectly Clear but for landscapes, nature etc I shoot RAW or both RAW and JPG just depends on the situation.

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Nov 18, 2017 08:15:54   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
suntouched wrote:
I have tried recent versions of DXO, Luminar and Affinity and don't find them to be at all intuitive. As a matter of fact I sat there stating at the DXO screen for 5 minutes trying to figure out how to load a photo to edit and it was downhill from there.

I don't enjoy post processing and would rather be taking pictures than learning new from scratch, complicated, editing software. So for now I will keep on using Bridge, Camera Raw, PS, (and OnOne) and pay the fees. My fees haven't risen more than 2.00 a month (if that) over the past 5 years. There is no guarantee that the aforementioned companies will still be around 5 years from now anyway and if they are, who knows what their fees will end up being. Or they could decide that the lease option is the way to go too.

And there is always PS Elements (with video editing) as a stand alone to purchase.

Anyone else feel the same?
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Try Paint shop Pro, went through tht years ago and settled on PSP , haven't used the most recent yet, waiting to get a new computer first.

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Nov 18, 2017 08:18:12   #
johnbhome2 Loc: Wyoming, Michigan
 
If in isn't broke just use it. One can go nuts trying to keep up.

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Nov 18, 2017 08:24:50   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
I have been using Photoshop since 2008 and once you learn it you find that it is easier to pick up another editing package and use it because they all work initially the same, the only major difference is where they place the components. For-instance I can use Photoshop CC and Affinity Photo interchangeably as Affinity Photo can do 90% of what Photoshop does as far as image editing.

suntouched wrote:
I think I sent the wrong message :)

I found myself reacting to the mass "panic" about Adobe's model and business practices (especially with recent changes) and started looking for new editing software. And realized the learning curve in doing so. And made the decision to stay with Adobe products until reality, not rumors, prove that it is no longer a good option.

I post process. I have to with Raw files. I am capable of learning new editing software but I choose not to invest the time to do so.


While everyone else (it seems) is busy learning new, complicated, editing software I will be out taking pictures :)
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Nov 18, 2017 08:28:30   #
Grand Loc: Lebanon, Pa
 
that's why I shoot jpeg

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Nov 18, 2017 08:28:39   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Morning Star wrote:
Suntouched and Photodoc,
I've heard rumours that PSE is also going to the cloud model in the near future. If so, that will be the end of that one for me. I will keep the latest standalone version I have on my computer.
I just got PSE2018 last week, haven't played much with it yet, because of current priorities.
However, if you want more features for PSE, they can be had for US$12.00 from < http://elementsplus.net/ >
Easy to install, and adds a number of PS features to PSE. You can download and install the demo version, which contains only a couple of the features, to get an idea of what it's like.
Suntouched and Photodoc, br I've heard rumours tha... (show quote)


I just watched the intro video. $12 seems very reasonable for the features of Elements it exposes. If I can install on my 2 computers with PSE 15, I'm sold. Thanks for the heads up.

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Nov 18, 2017 08:35:31   #
Morning Star Loc: West coast, North of the 49th N.
 
Bill_de wrote:
I just watched the intro video. $12 seems very reasonable for the features of Elements it exposes. If I can install on my 2 computers with PSE 15, I'm sold. Thanks for the heads up.

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Do make sure you order the correct version: They bring out a new version with every new PSE !

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Nov 18, 2017 08:39:37   #
lwerthe1mer Loc: Birmingham, Alabama
 
[quote=suntouched]I have tried recent versions of DXO, Luminar and Affinity and don't find them to be at all intuitive. As a matter of fact I sat there stating at the DXO screen for 5 minutes trying to figure out how to load a photo to edit and it was downhill from there.

I don't enjoy post processing and would rather be taking pictures than learning new from scratch, complicated, editing software. So for now I will keep on using Bridge, Camera Raw, PS, (and OnOne) and pay the fees. My fees haven't risen more than 2.00 a month (if that) over the past 5 years. There is no guarantee that the aforementioned companies will still be around 5 years from now anyway and if they are, who knows what their fees will end up being. Or they could decide that the lease option is the way to go too.

And there is always PS Elements (with video editing) as a stand alone to purchase.

Anyone else feel the same?[/quote

I adept the same approach. I’m comfortable with LR. Why change until I have to.

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Nov 18, 2017 08:44:04   #
Jeffcs Loc: Myrtle Beach South Carolina
 
Grand wrote:
that's why I shoot jpeg


Shooting JPGS is like buying film and letting a lab decide on how the final image looks

Shooting in RAW allows you the maker to bring out all of the image potential

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Nov 18, 2017 08:51:35   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Jeffcs wrote:
Shooting JPGS is like buying film and letting a lab decide on how the final image looks

Shooting in RAW allows you the maker to bring out all of the image potential


Not true!

Unlike having a lab process your images, there is a lot of leeway when editing a JPG. Truly not as much as with RAW, but a lot more than there was 10 years ago.

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Nov 18, 2017 09:07:24   #
sodapop Loc: Bel Air, MD
 
And fun too!!


russelray wrote:
Back in 1966, I enjoyed post-processing pictures in the school's dark room. I developed the film using different chemicals for the different films;
exposed the film on different papers for different effects;
used different chemicals for the different papers;
dodged;
burned;
created special effects with different filters;
went home all smelly and stinky..............

What's changed?

Now I get to do it all at the comfort of my computer;
without getting all smelly and stinky;
while watching the latest episode of "House of Cards" or "Game of Thrones"';
or listening to the latest music by U2, Metallica, Depeche Mode, Accept;
while drinking a margarita;
and spending $9.99 a month for Photoshop, Bridge, and Lightroom rather than $9.99 a day on films, chemicals, and papers.

Yep. I love modernism. The learning curve is much less time consuming and far less expensive.
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