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Nov 19, 2017 16:47:21   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
TheShoe wrote:
I gave up on Adobe when they first started their cloud crap for a couple of reasons. Their terms of use were, at first , completely unacceptable. I knew that they would probably change them to make them more acceptable, but there is nothing to say that they won't change them again after they get a sufficient number of captive users. The second is there is nothing in the cloud that is safe. I switched to DxO and found the learning curve to not be a problem for me. The actual PP part is far simpler than with Adobe. It is simpler because there is none of the pixel-level muckiness. I have to pay attention more while shooting pictures to prevent problems that need to be cleaned up in PP, but that is a price that I am willing to pay.
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You based your decision on bad info. I use CC. All my files and software live on my computer. Period. DXO, like Lr and Adobe Camera Raw, are great for proof quality images, but not for truly finished images. You need a pixel-level editor to accomplish that. The terms of Adobe's CC plan for photographers went from $30/mo with no Lr and a requirement that you previously purchased a license for CS5 or CS6, to $10/mo for Ps and Lr with no prerequisite. And as far as what happens in the future - it is of no consequence. The price could go up, down, or remain the same. If you have a crystal ball that can predict, with accuracy, what will happen tomorrow, I'd love to borrow it from you so I can fatten up my retirement investments. You can always switch away from Adobe anytime you want. In the meantime, I've been able to take advantage of what Ps and Lr offer - and make some serious $$$ in the meantime because of it. I also use DXO, On1, Nik and other applications in my workflow. But the total solution starts with Lr/Ps.

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Nov 19, 2017 21:47:44   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
I agree with your view: "Good composition and knowledge of your subject matter goes far." I'd add the necessity of learning the Exposure Triangle.
fotobyferg wrote:
suntouched, I am right with you.

I have always been the geek in my house, despite having two adult children that grew up during the “digital revolution”.

However, as I get older, have gone through cancer, hip, shoulder, neck and knee surgeries (that took years out of my life and still affect my abilities to this day) I have become less and less willing to climb those often-time steep learning curves associated with new software.

I want to travel to exotic locations...and have. I want to ride and drive my horses. I want to sail endlessly beautiful summer days or zip around in our little wooden antique powerboat on a cool, crisp fall day. I want to visit with my kids. I want to live!

I do NOT want to sit at home learning software programs for better image editing of pictues I have no desire or intention of selling.

I give my watermarked photos away because that’s what I enjoy doing, and many happy high school wrestlers, adult rugby team players, and outdoor loving horsemen sincerely apprecite my efforts despite them not being highly edited.

Good composition and knowledge of your subject matter goes far and, more importantly, works for little ol’ novice photographer me!
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Nov 19, 2017 22:21:30   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
anotherview wrote:
I'd add the necessity of learning the Exposure Triangle.


That is way too easy to master, unlike the other 2, which most of us will never master.

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Nov 20, 2017 08:55:35   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Although I tend to agree, I suggest this equation for doing photography: Study composition and exposure along with the importance of subject.

Others might agree that a well-composed photograph with an off-exposure of a mundane subject will still offer eye appeal owing to a visual balance.

Alternatively, I present this approach: First find an interesting subject. Then expose and compose it to bring out its potential.

These methods will give a direction to an individual trying to learn the craft of photography.
tdekany wrote:
That is way too easy to master, unlike the other 2, which most of us will never master.

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