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Sep 20, 2017 10:15:03   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
mas24 wrote:
You can't get a refurbished crop sensor D7200 camera for $600. Used, Gray Market, or otherwise? Good luck.


Hmmm. Remedial reading for you.

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Sep 20, 2017 11:50:53   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
That's for the D610, but the D600 went for less, several between $600 and $700.


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Sep 20, 2017 12:36:03   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Look for a used A7
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Sep 20, 2017 13:51:05   #
Fotomacher Loc: Toronto
 
kcooke wrote:
I'm looking for a full frame DSLR for $600 or less. I'm on a strict budget. Obviously I am looking at used. I Currently own a Nikon D3100, D80 and D200. While I would prefer Nikon due to lenses I am open to any brand. 3 of my 4 current lenses are fx sized. As a side note I have found a Canon 5D MK II for $595 bare body battery and charger. It's in good shape but I do not know the shutter count yet. Please offer suggestions on suitable cameras to look for. Thanks in advance


Nikon D700. You won't be sorry. Great body, excellent IQ with proper pro level glass. That is constant apertures of f/2.8 or better. Do not use plasticy kit lenses such as 18-55 or 55-200 if you're looking for great results.

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Sep 20, 2017 13:55:00   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
The A7 is buggy, but the IQ and dynamic ranges is hard to deny.


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Sep 20, 2017 14:14:01   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
True but look at the A7 compared to the D600.

Cdouthitt wrote:
The A7 is buggy, but the IQ and dynamic ranges is hard to deny.


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Sep 20, 2017 14:18:11   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Bobspez wrote:
True but look at the A7 compared to the D600.


It’s hard to see, with all those oil spotches on the sensor ;-)

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Sep 20, 2017 14:20:49   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
kcooke wrote:
Thanks Gene. I'm struggling between the D700 and 5DII as those will probably be the only 2 close to my budget. I would just look at the D700 since I have Nikon gear but the 21mp sensor on the 5DII has got me thinking. Fortunately I am patient and can spend time searching for that elusive deal on a D3S although I doubt I'll find one in my budget.

Since you are patient, you may eventually find a good deal on a FF camera. Keep an eye on the offerings from trusted vendors [B&H, Adorama, Cameta, KEH], because inventory changes often. Pre-owned cameras are graded as to condition, and although I have not seen shutter counts mentioned, it is easy enough to find out. These vendors stand behind their gear, so dealing with them is seldom a risk.

With a limited budget for the camera, it suggests you would not be happy to need all new lenses. This is why sticking with Nikon is the way to go. Since you already own Nikon FX lenses, it is also the logical thing to do. If you keep adding other brands to your list, you will end up confusing yourself. If sensor size is a consideration, you may need to increase your budget! But don't reject a Nikon camera because of sensor size! Keep looking and make a list of possible choices. Do some side-by-side comparisons [B&H's website offers this capability] where available. [I have also opened two items in separate windows, reduced window size, and put them beside each other to do the compare.]

It took me 5 years with an AP-SC camera before I could purchase an FX camera, but I was acquiring the lenses, tripod, etc. along the way. Then Nikon had a great sale around the holidays last year and now I have a FF camera!

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Sep 20, 2017 14:29:17   #
RickBechtel
 
I just upgraded, and have an original 5D (~7,200 shutter count) that I'd be willing to sell in that price range, together with Canon's EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM Lens, 2 batteries and battery charger if you're interested. All are in excellent condition. You can reach me at rebechtel@comcast.net.

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Sep 20, 2017 14:29:57   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
Many of the D600 cameras for sale used on ebay have replaced shutters. But if it is listed as fully operational and functioning as intended paypal would refund the purchase price and postage. A camera suffering from oil splotches on the sensor would have to be listed as not fully functional or needing repair. There are 92,000 pics posted in the D600 group on flickr. I doubt anyone would post one with oil splotches. I haven't seen any.

Cdouthitt wrote:
It’s hard to see, with all those oil spotches on the sensor ;-)

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Sep 20, 2017 14:41:06   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
Susan, now that you have had the FF for about 9 months, what's your experience with the FF compared to the ASC?
SusanFromVermont wrote:
Since you are patient, you may eventually find a good deal on a FF camera. Keep an eye on the offerings from trusted vendors [B&H, Adorama, Cameta, KEH], because inventory changes often. Pre-owned cameras are graded as to condition, and although I have not seen shutter counts mentioned, it is easy enough to find out. These vendors stand behind their gear, so dealing with them is seldom a risk.

With a limited budget for the camera, it suggests you would not be happy to need all new lenses. This is why sticking with Nikon is the way to go. Since you already own Nikon FX lenses, it is also the logical thing to do. If you keep adding other brands to your list, you will end up confusing yourself. If sensor size is a consideration, you may need to increase your budget! But don't reject a Nikon camera because of sensor size! Keep looking and make a list of possible choices. Do some side-by-side comparisons [B&H's website offers this capability] where available. [I have also opened two items in separate windows, reduced window size, and put them beside each other to do the compare.]

It took me 5 years with an AP-SC camera before I could purchase an FX camera, but I was acquiring the lenses, tripod, etc. along the way. Then Nikon had a great sale around the holidays last year and now I have a FF camera!
Since you are patient, you may eventually find a g... (show quote)

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Sep 20, 2017 15:20:34   #
dandi Loc: near Seattle, WA
 
Fotomacher wrote:
Nikon D700. You won't be sorry. Great body, excellent IQ...


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Sep 20, 2017 15:49:06   #
leftyD500 Loc: Ocala, Florida
 
kcooke wrote:
I'm looking for a full frame DSLR for $600 or less. I'm on a strict budget. Obviously I am looking at used. I Currently own a Nikon D3100, D80 and D200. While I would prefer Nikon due to lenses I am open to any brand. 3 of my 4 current lenses are fx sized. As a side note I have found a Canon 5D MK II for $595 bare body battery and charger. It's in good shape but I do not know the shutter count yet. Please offer suggestions on suitable cameras to look for. Thanks in advance


You can get a Nikon D3 for around that much. It shoots at 12.1 megapixels, image quality is superior, can shoot high ISO with minimal noise, which is very good for low light shootong.I have one, and I love it.

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Sep 20, 2017 16:29:19   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
Bobspez wrote:
Susan, now that you have had the FF for about 9 months, what's your experience with the FF compared to the ASC?

I love it! Better resolution - that's one of the main reasons I wanted a FF. And I got what I wanted... There were a few differences in where the controls are located, but that is a minor thing to have to learn. In addition it has much better low light function - less noise at higher ISO. I don't mind a little noise, but this is so much better than my crop-sensor. Heard a lot of people griping about added weight, but I looked at the specs, and it is less than a pound more. A pound is nothing unless you have some handicap that makes it difficult to handle. This camera does everything I have asked of it. No complaints about burst speed, shutter speed, etc. It can be adjusted to whatever aperture, shutter speed, ISO I want, in order to get proper exposure.

If there is any particular questions you want answered, let me know. I am very happy with this camera.

Susan

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Sep 20, 2017 16:49:18   #
sirlensalot Loc: Arizona
 
My favorite portrait / wedding lens is my 5D. Last time I looked they were going for around $400. You may find one for less. On this model, always ask if the mirror has been replaced or repaired. It was an engineering problem. Canon replaced them for free, so I doubt there are many out there that have not been upgraded. Can't speak to Nikon.

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