For the Straight-Out-of-the-Camera crowd
Jul 17, 2017 01:52:18 #
CaptainC wrote:
Nope - one light source. Sunset was to camera left - I just made it more visible.
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Having to face reality, the sun appears to be about 20deg left of your position when taking the picture, but...
Darkening the sky rather unrealistically there appears to be afterglow coming from the background.
That may not be a "reason" to have stayed w/some version of your original, but the result of all the tampering with
reality does not look like anything we could believe would be real because it's just too obvious.
Is that all right with you then, that you avoid what is possible and natural, as though you had set up giant mirrors to
reflect the light back to those rocks, and you like it that way, then that's all that matters regardless of what anyone
else sees and immediately recognizes as impossible from one light source.
Soo where are we going with the title of a topic being for the straight-out-of-the camera crowd. It would seem rather,
that what you have done is straight for the extreme processing crowd. That, then would be....anything at all is
pleasing, "reasonable", even if surreal
Jul 17, 2017 02:16:47 #
CaptainC wrote:
WE often see posts extolling the virtues "straight from the camera" and why post processing is evil - or at least not pure. Just going back over some images from Monument Valley from a few years ago and figured this blah image could use some help. The top one IS more accurate - the bottom one is what I felt.
I just can't get past the glow around the rock on the right.
Jul 17, 2017 02:38:48 #
Very nice, regardless of what any pickers of nits might say! (I do agree with jcboy3 now that I look at it again - the area around the rock on the rights needs a bit more work. And oh, buy the way, the reason Ansel Adams was so great was his post-processing abilities! (of course his were in the darkroom so took a bit more time and effort).
Jul 17, 2017 03:26:29 #
Racmanaz
Loc: Sunny Tucson!
Retina wrote:
:SOOC is actually post-processing, just on autopilot RAW to JPG done solely by computer with no one at the controls. What we normally call post is taking the scenic route. You took this exposure on a very stunning ride. Nice flight, Captain.
"SOOC is actually post-processing, just on autopilot". Well, I believe that is not accurate, SOOC is a processed RAW file from and by the camera's processor but not a post-process or (After-Processing). In order for an image file to be post-processed, it would first have to be processed. :)
Jul 17, 2017 03:32:44 #
Jul 17, 2017 03:40:42 #
Racmanaz wrote:
"SOOC is actually post-processing, just on autopilot". Well, I believe that is not accurate, SOOC is a processed RAW file from and by the camera's processor but not a post-process or (After-Processing). In order for an image file to be post-processed, it would first have to be processed. :)
It is processed post capture. The raw image data is the capture, and any bitmap image (JPEG or other) is "post processed". Either by the camera or external to the camera.
Word games are a waste of your time: a rose is a rose no matter what you call it.
Jul 17, 2017 04:13:11 #
Racmanaz
Loc: Sunny Tucson!
Apaflo wrote:
It is processed post capture. The raw image data is the capture, and any bitmap image (JPEG or other) is "post processed". Either by the camera or external to the camera.
Word games are a waste of your time: a rose is a rose no matter what you call it.
Word games are a waste of your time: a rose is a rose no matter what you call it.
Post-process means "after-process", the raw file is processed by the camera to produce the jpg image. This is not a word game, it's about using terms correctly. It's the same as one assigning the term "steep learning curve" incorrectly to describe something that takes a lot of effort and time, which is also incorrect. :) But that's fine, I will not argue this point from here on....have a good night.
Jul 17, 2017 04:20:59 #
Racmanaz wrote:
Post-process means "after-process", the raw file is processed by the camera to produce the jpg image. This is not a word game, it's about using terms correctly. It's the same as one assigning the term "steep learning curve" incorrectly to describe something that takes a lot of effort and time, which is also incorrect. :) But that's fine, I will not argue this point from here on....have a good night.
Wrong. Like I said about a rose...
Jul 17, 2017 05:30:37 #
CaptainC wrote:
WE often see posts extolling the virtues "straight from the camera" and why post processing is evil - or at least not pure. Just going back over some images from Monument Valley from a few years ago and figured this blah image could use some help. The top one IS more accurate - the bottom one is what I felt.
Fantastic post processing
As for the SOOC, put it back in!!!
The first image is boring as all get out while the Second has a lot of drama going on. Great work!!!Jul 17, 2017 05:53:42 #
Just a little overdone, or perhaps needs a little more time. I do like it, but a slight bloom around the right side butte is clearly visible on my screen.
Jul 17, 2017 06:50:07 #
CaptainC wrote:
WE often see posts extolling the virtues "straight from the camera" and why post processing is evil - or at least not pure. Just going back over some images from Monument Valley from a few years ago and figured this blah image could use some help. The top one IS more accurate - the bottom one is what I felt.
As you've demonstrated, processing is, indeed, evil. Just look how much darker the processed image is - it went to the Dark Side.
Processing is the difference between very good and acceptable.
Jul 17, 2017 08:21:23 #
Like CaptainC said, the post image is what he "felt". We can't argue with that. You can be for or against post processing but you can't argue with how the artist feels and how he sees his own creativity.
Jul 17, 2017 08:24:55 #
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Jul 17, 2017 08:28:17 #
dennisallard wrote:
You just explained very clearly what photography is all about.
Which everyone needs to understand is not anything called reality.
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