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Jul 16, 2017 22:18:58   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
WE often see posts extolling the virtues "straight from the camera" and why post processing is evil - or at least not pure. Just going back over some images from Monument Valley from a few years ago and figured this blah image could use some help. The top one IS more accurate - the bottom one is what I felt.




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Jul 16, 2017 22:28:56   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Wow!

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Jul 16, 2017 22:42:18   #
rjaywallace Loc: Wisconsin
 
Bravo on your artistic perception and on the craftsmanship it took to bring it out, CaptainC! Very nice job. /Ralph

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Jul 16, 2017 22:46:41   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
See that, you just didn't get it right the first time. I'm sure you'll learn from your mistakes and won't need to spend time on evil post processing next time around

Beautiful shot Captain!

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Jul 16, 2017 22:53:23   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
Ah. I believe this was the locale of many John Ford westerns. Magnificant!

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Jul 16, 2017 22:56:03   #
Retina Loc: Near Charleston,SC
 
SOOC is actually post-processing, just on autopilot: RAW to JPG done solely by computer with no one at the controls. What we normally call post is taking the scenic route. You took this exposure on a very stunning ride. Nice flight, Captain.

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Jul 16, 2017 22:59:59   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
Retina wrote:
SOOC is actually post-processing, just on autopilot: RAW to JPG done solely by computer with no one at the controls. What we normally call post is taking the scenic route. You took this exposure on a very stunning ride. Nice flight, Captain.



Shhhh!!!!

The SOOC camera crowd will be devastated by this news"...

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Jul 16, 2017 23:08:56   #
whwiden
 
CaptainC wrote:
WE often see posts extolling the virtues "straight from the camera" and why post processing is evil - or at least not pure. Just going back over some images from Monument Valley from a few years ago and figured this blah image could use some help. The top one IS more accurate - the bottom one is what I felt.


Very informative! I am fine with post-processing when needed. You made a nice adjustment in my view. Might this have been set up in camera? My guess is--probably hard to do in camera. And, even if possible, more time consuming than setting up a file that is easy to adjust later, if desired. I generally shoot raw, but I have jpeg settings that I use if I expect I want to adjust a jpeg a little bit later. Usually involves using a neutral or flat setting and slightly reducing the contrast. But I like your adjustment better than a still interesting OOC.

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Jul 16, 2017 23:31:37   #
jenny Loc: in hiding:)
 
Hm, well I guess it's okay if it's okay with the post processing crowd

However the "improvement" is rather puzzling since the light is so unnatural.
Wonder what time of day/nite it's supposed to be with two opposing light sources?
Of course there could have been some gentler adjustments set in the camera years ago,
maybe you didn't do that sort of thing at the time. Maybe you still don't.
Maybe you just don't like anything "believable", been reading sci fi stories, e,g,we get a 2nd sun?

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Jul 16, 2017 23:35:47   #
10MPlayer Loc: California
 
jenny wrote:
Hm, well I guess it's okay if it's okay with the post processing crowd

However the "improvement" is rather puzzling since the light is so unnatural.
Wonder what time of day/nite it's supposed to be with two opposing light sources?
Of course there could have been some gentler adjustments set in the camera years ago,
maybe you didn't do that sort of thing at the time. Maybe you still don't.
Maybe you just don't like anything "believable", been reading sci fi stories, e,g,we get a 2nd sun?
Hm, well I guess it's okay if it's okay with the p... (show quote)


Or maybe art isn't just what we see with our eyes but what we can imagine.

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Jul 16, 2017 23:50:07   #
TheDman Loc: USA
 
10MPlayer wrote:
Or maybe art isn't just what we see with our eyes but what we can imagine.


What?!? No. We're all forensic photographers, or apparently should aspire to be.

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Jul 17, 2017 01:04:06   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
10MPlayer wrote:
Or maybe art isn't just what we see with our eyes but what we can imagine.



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Jul 17, 2017 01:04:23   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
TheDman wrote:
What?!? No. We're all forensic photographers, or apparently should aspire to be.



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Jul 17, 2017 01:08:21   #
Haydon
 
10MPlayer wrote:
Or maybe art isn't just what we see with our eyes but what we can imagine.


I love Joel Grime's words that complements your statement.

"A photograph is not reality at best; it is an illusion of reality."

or

****I need to see as an artist and less as a technician.****

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Jul 17, 2017 01:13:49   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
jenny wrote:
Hm, well I guess it's okay if it's okay with the post processing crowd

However the "improvement" is rather puzzling since the light is so unnatural.
Wonder what time of day/nite it's supposed to be with two opposing light sources?
Of course there could have been some gentler adjustments set in the camera years ago,
maybe you didn't do that sort of thing at the time. Maybe you still don't.
Maybe you just don't like anything "believable", been reading sci fi stories, e,g,we get a 2nd sun?
Hm, well I guess it's okay if it's okay with the p... (show quote)


Nope - one light source. Sunset was to camera left - I just made it more visible.

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