CaptainC, I definitely prefer your vision over the Original take, much more depth and Moodiness, Bravo...excellent Vision.
Nice job. Just a novice here, but I understand that post processing is to enable you to filter out all the extra info contained in a raw file, and leave the image as you recollect as it occurred.
CaptainC wrote:
WE often see posts extolling the virtues "straight from the camera" and why post processing is evil - or at least not pure. Just going back over some images from Monument Valley from a few years ago and figured this blah image could use some help. The top one IS more accurate - the bottom one is what I felt.
I like the second one more , you dident add anything that was not there in the first place , the people that your talking about don't know
Crap , it's when you add stuff that was not there like trees clouds water , you just brought out what was there in the first place , if you could
Bring out what a bee sees or some birds see in a bunch of flowers , its what they see , just because we can't does not mean it's not there
It wouldent suprise me if a eagle or hawks see it a lot different than we can
A lot of times, I don't do anything to my photos except to crop them. I hate post processing almost as much as I hate cats. I also hate shaving also, but I do it.
jenny wrote:
Hm, well I guess it's okay if it's okay with the post processing crowd
However the "improvement" is rather puzzling since the light is so unnatural.
Wonder what time of day/nite it's supposed to be with two opposing light sources?
Of course there could have been some gentler adjustments set in the camera years ago,
maybe you didn't do that sort of thing at the time. Maybe you still don't.
Maybe you just don't like anything "believable", been reading sci fi stories, e,g,we get a 2nd sun?
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Jen, it's like a movie starlets face , no one says beans, but when the see them caught on camera by paparazzi, holy sh-- what happened
To her ???
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CaptainC wrote:
Yep. That's pretty much it.
Congratulations on being a story teller with the camera. I look forward to seeing more.
If you should ever make it to Pegon Forge, Tn, go to Earlywine Pottery and look at the photos on the walls. They tell the story of family love. They have a lot of fine hand thrown pottery, too.
CarsonSmitty wrote:
Nice job. Just a novice here, but I understand that post processing is to enable you to filter out all the extra info contained in a raw file, and leave the image as you recollect as it occurred.
It's the other way around ,bring out what you can in the raw file that looks good to you , your not adding anything that was not in the pictur
Your just bringing it out , if I had to leave my pictures as I seen them and not bring out the basic stuff that I know is there , I would hang
My camera up for good , they all look better , I can make any picture better than what comes out on the first look ln the computer look
Way better , just a little more contrast or less .a touch more expouser , more of this or less of that . Just like what he did on that photo
And every pro does the same, the shots taken in the wild life mags, and most mags have been tweaked ,to make them look that good
Even the sport mags , and golf , over seas war shots all have ever been tweaked from straight out of camera, if a pro does your wedding
Don't you look better in the photes that he took than you do in real life , I rest my case , that bride of yours looks like some one else
Not your every day wife .
I'm trying, have you ever seen Ansel Adams work , if you think any of his greats just came out of the camera and that was it . Your
Sadley mistaken , he worked on those negatives for hours sometimes days to get what he wanted , look it up and read it
Yourself . He would dodge and burn for hours ,
Retina
Loc: Near Charleston,SC
lmTrying wrote:
Please, help me, and maybe some others. I was under the impression that "Auto Bracket" and "Exposure Compensation" were similar terms for the same concept. I realize that your photographic knowledge is much deeper that mine, I see that in your answers, of which I have read many. So will you please explain what each term means.
Thank you in advance.
I gather you mean my use of the term autopilot. I was using a metaphor (recognizing CaptainC) when the referring to the latter part of the SOOC trip, namely converting raw sensor data to JPEG using firmware in one of the camera's computers after pre-setting some parameters. SOOC is an instant, single shot at processing with more automation, whereas post-processing lets the photographer guide every step of the way from the raw data to JPEG using a separate personal computer. I was just re-iterating the idea that both SOOC and PP do the same thing, except the latter allows for unlimited creativity and improvisation and is non-destructive to the original exposure, whereas SOOC does all the PP work for you if you don't want to be more involved doing that part. It's certainly not a photographic term. I apologize for any confusion. As for knowledge, I'm not sure if I ever had much in the first place that wasn't wiped out in a poorly ventilated darkroom. Thank you, though. In photography knowledge helps, but a creative eye for great images and a lot of practice mean far more than being fascinated by all the electronics involved.
No comparison! I, too, have gone back to some of my early out-of-camera images and edited with similar results. Well done!
The bottom one is much better. Nice touch!!
IBM wrote:
It's the other way around ,bring out what you can in the raw file that looks good to you , your not adding anything that was not in the pictur
Your just bringing it out , if I had to leave my pictures as I seen them and not bring out the basic stuff that I know is there , I would hang
My camera up for good , they all look better , I can make any picture better than what comes out on the first look ln the computer look
Way better , just a little more contrast or less .a touch more expouser , more of this or less of that . Just like what he did on that photo
And every pro does the same, the shots taken in the wild life mags, and most mags have been tweaked ,to make them look that good
Even the sport mags , and golf , over seas war shots all have ever been tweaked from straight out of camera, if a pro does your wedding
Don't you look better in the photes that he took than you do in real life , I rest my case , that bride of yours looks like some one else
Not your every day wife .
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Too bad that bride looked like someone else, that's what portrait photographers graphers do y'know, they're known by real photographers
as another name, and it's only 4 letters long....
The PP certainly made this scene stand out. Wonderful upgrade of that photo.
I like the brooding feel for pix 2.
CaptainC wrote:
WE often see posts extolling the virtues "straight from the camera" and why post processing is evil - or at least not pure. Just going back over some images from Monument Valley from a few years ago and figured this blah image could use some help. The top one IS more accurate - the bottom one is what I felt.
The bottom one is way better than SOOC. I love it. It's all about being creative and getting a pleasing picture that you'll be proud to hang on YOUR wall. Or on the wall in a gallery.
Bravo!
JD
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