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Jun 23, 2017 18:22:46   #
digitalexplr Loc: Central Missouri
 
OddJobber wrote:
You're over thinking a non-issue.


Amen! Take what you want for the "walk-about" you are doing, and be happy!

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Jun 23, 2017 18:31:32   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Delderby wrote:
Like most other things in photography – I believe (said the peanut farmer) that a walk-about lens is a compromise – if not, then there would be little need for interchangeable lenses.
But one man's walk-about could be different to another's – in which case his walk- about lens might also be different. For instance, the city dweller and the farmer.
So - when Hogs mention “walk-about lens”, should we imagine their circumstance and then the lens accordingly?
It is highly probable that the two city dwellers would not agree over what makes an ideal walk-about lens - and the same for the two farmers.
So really, there is no such thing as a walk-about lens - but perhaps a general purpose lens, which is what most “kit” lenses are designed to be.
Therefore we should not, perhaps, abandon our kit lenses at the earliest opportunity – lets just call them walk-about lenses.
Like most other things in photography – I believe... (show quote)

Well, there's no such thing as a general purpose lens either by your description. A general purpose lens for a farmer may be different than a general purpose lens for a city dweller...
A "walk-about lens" is an individual volition object. If you usually always use a certain lens when you go on a walk-about, that is your walkabout lens. Other people may use a different lens, and that's fine, as it would be THEIR walk-about lens.

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Jun 23, 2017 19:09:38   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
OddJobber wrote:
You're over thinking a non-issue.



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Jun 23, 2017 20:06:11   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Delderby wrote:
Like most other things in photography – I believe (said the peanut farmer) that a walk-about lens is a compromise – if not, then there would be little need for interchangeable lenses.
But one man's walk-about could be different to another's – in which case his walk- about lens might also be different. For instance, the city dweller and the farmer.
So - when Hogs mention “walk-about lens”, should we imagine their circumstance and then the lens accordingly?
It is highly probable that the two city dwellers would not agree over what makes an ideal walk-about lens - and the same for the two farmers.
So really, there is no such thing as a walk-about lens - but perhaps a general purpose lens, which is what most “kit” lenses are designed to be.
Therefore we should not, perhaps, abandon our kit lenses at the earliest opportunity – lets just call them walk-about lenses.
Like most other things in photography – I believe... (show quote)


Like everything else in life. all choices are a compromise. Any zoom lens is a compromise between prime lenses of simmiliar focal length. My 18-200 zoom lives on my camera because it meets the overwhelming number of my needs. Is it the best lens in the world, certainly not. But as I said it meets my needs.

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Jun 23, 2017 20:15:35   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
I believe there is much confusion between the terms walk about and general purpose. The ideal walk about lens will be determined by where you are walking about and what you plan to photograph. A general purpose lens is a lens that does not excel at any one application but is useful in many applications, from wide angle to telephoto.
A walk about lens can be pretty much anything you want it to be or need it to be.
A general purpose lens is a jack of all trades, master of none.
My general purpose lens is also more often than not my walk about lens on one of the two cameras I usually have handy, my Canon EF 28-300 f/3.5-5.6L IS USM. I've used it to photograph flower shows, car shows, car races, dog shows, family gathering, city scenes and country scenes, kite flying, beach activities and generally anything I felt like pointing it at, and lots and lots of photos of my dogs. It works great with a speedlite and without. It is quite the general purpose lens and although it's not the sharpest lens I own, unless one is preoccupied with pixel peeping, it's sharp enough. I've made pleanty of 13 X 19 prints from images shot with that lens and they look just fine.
I believe there is much confusion between the term... (show quote)


While I can't totally disagree with you I have one small thing to bring up. To me and I suspect many of us, a walk around lens is one we walk around with because it is somewhat lightweight and also handles the majority of our photography chores as well. I look at the 28-300 lens you mentioned and think that, yes, it can be a walk around lens for you if you use it for a great proportion of your photographs. But for most of us we want lighter and handier size wize for a walk around lens since we hardly use the 300mm part of the lens. Again, I am not disagreeing and if that is the lens you mostly use the we have no disagreement at all. But I am curious. How much do you use the 200-300mm side of your lens out of all your photography with it?

Dennis

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Jun 23, 2017 20:47:44   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Delderby wrote:
Like most other things in photography – I believe (said the peanut farmer) that a walk-about lens is a compromise – if not, then there would be little need for interchangeable lenses.
But one man's walk-about could be different to another's – in which case his walk- about lens might also be different. For instance, the city dweller and the farmer.
So - when Hogs mention “walk-about lens”, should we imagine their circumstance and then the lens accordingly?
It is highly probable that the two city dwellers would not agree over what makes an ideal walk-about lens - and the same for the two farmers.
So really, there is no such thing as a walk-about lens - but perhaps a general purpose lens, which is what most “kit” lenses are designed to be.
Therefore we should not, perhaps, abandon our kit lenses at the earliest opportunity – lets just call them walk-about lenses.
Like most other things in photography – I believe... (show quote)


To your point, when I do street photography, my walk around lens is a 35mm. When I go to a place where I expect to see and shoot birds and wildlife, my walk around lens is a 150-600. When I hike, my walk (hike) around lens is either a 24-120 or a 24-70, depending on my mood and which lens has a recently cleaned front element.

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Jun 23, 2017 21:09:16   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
dennis2146 wrote:
With respect, Hogwash. I have found that even on my ranch in Colorado at 7000 feet, fishing at a mountain lake at 9200 feet or downtown Santa Barbara my 24-85 lens just fine. I could use it anywhere and have for 90% of my photography. For the other circumstances such as macro photography I use a 105 f2.8 lens. Of course the 105 does well as a portrait lens too. Only for specialized use such as wildlife photography or wide(r) angle photography will I ever need anything else. I have been to American cities, African plains, European countries and the 24-85 did pretty much most of my shooting and did it well.

Let's remember that kit lenses pretty much fall into the same MM range as professional lenses. The difference is the quality of materials in building the lens. For most photographers the image quality of kit lenses compared to professional lenses would be nil.

I am not talking about want here but genuine need.

Dennis
With respect, Hogwash. I have found that even on m... (show quote)


Interesting, my two kit lenses are, the Nikon 24-120 f4 bought as a KIT with the D810, and the Nikon 16-80 F2.8-4 bought as a KIT with the Nikon D500. Am I to assume after reading your post that the quality of materials is different and somehow substandard? OH, if I had only known that before I bought these KIT lenses.

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Jun 23, 2017 21:29:21   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
speters wrote:
The Canon 24-70/2.8 L and f/, the 24-105/f4L II, all these are kit lenses, and the quality of materials is top notch, as is the IQ!!


Well, those are NOT kit lenses. Just because they do come in a $5000 kit, does NOT make then kit lenses.
Kit lenses by definition are not professional lenses, but generic lenses meant to satisfy the requirements to make an inexpensive all-around kit for beginning and not yet discerning amateurs that can be purchased as a package and keep the cost as far down as possible.
But those do make excellent walk-around(W-A) lenses, especially the longer range 24-105 and especially on a FF for whence they are designed.

But yes, a walk-around can certainly vary, depending on the user.
Some here have come on and said that their fav W-A is the 70-200!
I'd be hard pressed to call that lens such, but can certainly be used by some as a W-A.
SS

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Jun 23, 2017 23:07:10   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
billnikon wrote:
Interesting, my two kit lenses are, the Nikon 24-120 f4 bought as a KIT with the D810, and the Nikon 16-80 F2.8-4 bought as a KIT with the Nikon D500. Am I to assume after reading your post that the quality of materials is different and somehow substandard? OH, if I had only known that before I bought these KIT lenses.


The lenses you speak of are not normally classed as kit lenses. As you probably are already aware the normal kit lenses are like the Nikon 18-55 lens. But I will still go along with the statement that kit lenses are very good lenses with good image quality.

Dennis

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Jun 24, 2017 00:37:15   #
erinjay64
 
Any lens your puny bod can haul around is a walk around lens. What works best for walking around crowded city streets in LA / HK, etc, may be different than what works best for walking around the open fields, mountain tops, etc, elsewhere. Fit the tool to the task.

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Jun 24, 2017 01:48:01   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Delderby wrote:
Like most other things in photography – I believe (said the peanut farmer) that a walk-about lens is a compromise – if not, then there would be little need for interchangeable lenses.
But one man's walk-about could be different to another's – in which case his walk- about lens might also be different. For instance, the city dweller and the farmer.
So - when Hogs mention “walk-about lens”, should we imagine their circumstance and then the lens accordingly?
It is highly probable that the two city dwellers would not agree over what makes an ideal walk-about lens - and the same for the two farmers.
So really, there is no such thing as a walk-about lens - but perhaps a general purpose lens, which is what most “kit” lenses are designed to be.
Therefore we should not, perhaps, abandon our kit lenses at the earliest opportunity – lets just call them walk-about lenses.
Like most other things in photography – I belie... (show quote)


I saw a walk around lens once...



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Jun 24, 2017 01:52:18   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
dennis2146 wrote:
While I can't totally disagree with you I have one small thing to bring up. To me and I suspect many of us, a walk around lens is one we walk around with because it is somewhat lightweight and also handles the majority of our photography chores as well. I look at the 28-300 lens you mentioned and think that, yes, it can be a walk around lens for you if you use it for a great proportion of your photographs. But for most of us we want lighter and handier size wize for a walk around lens since we hardly use the 300mm part of the lens. Again, I am not disagreeing and if that is the lens you mostly use the we have no disagreement at all. But I am curious. How much do you use the 200-300mm side of your lens out of all your photography with it?

Dennis
While I can't totally disagree with you I have one... (show quote)


One of the biggest advantages of having a 28-300 lens at something like a flower show is, you can get real nice close up photos without having to get too close. It's also good for cropping with the lens.
The one thing I like about my Nikkor 28-300 that I can't say about the Canon is its size. It's a whole lot lighter than my Canon lens. Unfortunately, since neither of my Nikon bodies are Full Frame, I don't use the 28-300 on them nearly as much as I do on my Canon's. The EF 28-300 on my 5DSR is actually a pretty good combination.

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Jun 24, 2017 03:19:57   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
OddJobber wrote:
You're over thinking a non-issue.


Yes - I probably am. But to think further, it seems that a "walk-about lens" is peculiar to the photographer who walks it, which means the term will confuse in discussion, and confirms that there is no such thing.

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Jun 24, 2017 03:27:06   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
Racmanaz wrote:
I saw a walk around lens once...


VERY nice!

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Jun 24, 2017 03:34:05   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Delderby wrote:
Yes - I probably am. But to think further, it seems that a "walk-about lens" is peculiar to the photographer who walks it, which means the term will confuse in discussion, and confirms that there is no such thing.


It also depends on the walk or the purpose of the walk. So I might consider my 18-135mm as my walkabout lens for an APS-C camera since it is the default attached lens, but another five lenses are in my standard bag, others if desired are extra.

It may be a personal thing, but I never go somewhere with only one lens, unless it is simply my iPhone.

Perhaps a smartphone is really the answer to your question. My phone is almost always with me, camera equipment significantly less often.

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