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May 11, 2017 00:52:42   #
GKR
 
What are stops, how do I use then and are they necessary?

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May 11, 2017 01:02:32   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
GKR wrote:
What are stops, how do I use then and are they necessary?


Do you meean F stops (as in aperture settings)?

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May 11, 2017 01:07:53   #
GKR
 
I went to the camera store to buy a ND filter and the person that was helping me asked me how many stops do I want.

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May 11, 2017 01:13:43   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
A ND filter will alow you to shoot at longer exposures at the very least. The stops you want (need?) depend on the lighting conditions and long you want you want to shoot for.
A 10 stop ND filter will allow you to shoot very long exposures in bright sushine. A 2 or 3 stop ND filter will allow you to blurr water falls etc in overcast conditions.

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May 11, 2017 01:21:51   #
GKR
 
Now, what are F stops? Here's a crazy question for you. Can I put a 3 stop filter over a 10 stop filter or is it best to use one filter at a time?

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May 11, 2017 01:31:13   #
IBM
 
GKR wrote:
I went to the camera store to buy a ND filter and the person that was helping me asked me how many stops do I want.


That's funny , and you were there , and he wouldent tell you I suppose ???

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May 11, 2017 01:34:24   #
GKR
 
He did explain it to me, but in a hurry up way.

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May 11, 2017 01:35:17   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
GKR wrote:
Now, what are F stops? Here's a crazy question for you. Can I put a 3 stop filter over a 10 stop filter or is it best to use one filter at a time?


Re F stops: See some of the replies (and links) about "Understanding Exposure" to your previous post about long exposures.

You can combine filters however it is not a great idea as you may get some image degradion due to the light having to pass through multiple layers of "glass".

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May 11, 2017 01:38:34   #
IBM
 
GKR wrote:
Now, what are F stops? Here's a crazy question for you. Can I put a 3 stop filter over a 10 stop filter or is it best to use one filter at a time?


How many pains of glass would you have to put flat together before all you see on the other side is a big blure

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May 11, 2017 01:38:49   #
GKR
 
Thanks for your help and I'll be heading to the book store this weekend. Need to get that book"Understanding Exposure". Take care and thanks again.

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May 11, 2017 01:45:10   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
GKR wrote:
Thanks for your help and I'll be heading to the book store this weekend. Need to get that book"Understanding Exposure". Take care and thanks again.


It's a very good book.

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May 11, 2017 01:47:54   #
IBM
 
GKR wrote:
He did explain it to me, but in a hurry up way.


I would say , if you did not know what they were for , that you do not need them , unless you need them for what your planing on

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May 11, 2017 01:59:35   #
Haydon
 
GKR wrote:
Now, what are F stops? Here's a crazy question for you. Can I put a 3 stop filter over a 10 stop filter or is it best to use one filter at a time?


Yes you can stack filters but it requires prefocusing first if you were to use a 3/10 stop in combination. It is important to use higher quality glass as you continue to put layer upon layer of glass in combination. I have stacked a polarizer with a 6 stop ND filter with a 3 Stop graduated ND filter in front before with minimal impact. Using filters to obtain longer exposures will have a growing period in calculating length of time your shutter will be open.

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May 11, 2017 03:18:11   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
GKR wrote:
What are stops, how do I use then and are they necessary?


GKR, welcome to the Hog!
About the stops...., I might have to stop but don't have time to stop and explain it right now!!! LoL
SS

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May 11, 2017 05:08:36   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
GKR wrote:
What are stops, how do I use then and are they necessary?

I don't think you have any idea of how shocked some of us were to read your question; it was basic, plain and simple - and remarkably wise and thought-provoking. As I began to write an answer, having used the term stops for 60+ years, I suddenly realized that it wasn't one of the sequence of numbers we use to explain an exposure variable. As I stop (pun not intended) and think about it, I realize that a stop is not just the size of the aperture; a stop is one of those ubiquitous terms we throw around about apertures, shutter speed, ISO, filter density, etc., without giving any thought to the complexities we are discussing. It has a myriad of definitions, meanings and purposes. When you read your book, you will know what the word generally means, but you will also learn the context of its use - and that will lead you to a better understanding of photography. I won't try to answer your questions; the answer is more meaningful than many of us understand. Thank you for your question and for having the courage to ask it. Don't let smarmy remarks and jokes lead you to think it was not a wise question.

And, by the way, the next time a sales representative asks you a question you don't understand, ask him/her to explain the question. You don't have to believe them; just listen to their sputtering inane explanation - because by that time you will know the answer and smile at their ineptitude.

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