Statue Of Liberty
Apr 23, 2017 23:25:37 #
That lady always impresses. The shot is nicely composed keeping her off center just enough.
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Apr 23, 2017 23:26:52 #
tainkc wrote:
Adobe is not screwing anything up. I have been using Adobe products for years and the only problems myself and others have noticed always end up being operator error despite the occasional update glitch. Problems like this is improper set up of the working template (not an Adobe problem) for the usage intended. It is that simple.
True! Note that selmslie incorrectly attributed his misunderstanding to me. I did not say anything suggesting it was other than using an improper method. Blaming Adobe came uniquely from selmslie, and is an unfortunate result of his not understanding color space. He posted three or four articles initially, none giving the answer and at least one flat saying he did not know the cause. After I posted an article explaining the specific cause selmslie has posted even more articles than before, all trying to claim he did know and is an expert on color space. Go figure... ; - )
Apr 24, 2017 00:25:26 #
Apr 24, 2017 03:47:26 #
tainkc wrote:
Adobe is not screwing anything up. ...
My original statement was too brief.
What screwed up the colors was using Adobe color spaces without understanding the consequences when it came time to upload to UHH.
Staying with sRGB throughout the editing process even when using Adobe software is a much simpler approach.
The other color spaces can be made to work if you know what you are doing but you can achieve a full range of colors either way.
Are you using another color space and converting to sRGB to upload to UHH? Or do you just stick with sRGB?
Apr 24, 2017 06:15:53 #
Apr 24, 2017 07:14:54 #
selmslie wrote:
I am using Pro Photo RGB as part of the process for other applications. So, instead of changing things around for UHH, I simply tic the "store original" box. It has nothing to do with Adobe. There are all sorts of combinations and permutations that allows one to have their thumbnails presented with fidelity. I know this from playing around with this situation myself, early on. By doing this, I learned a lot about how things work. Most interesting. But to knock a product because of lack of understanding? I don't get it.My original statement was too brief. br br What... (show quote)
Apr 24, 2017 07:49:14 #
tainkc wrote:
I am using Pro Photo RGB as part of the process fo... (show quote)
When I looked at this image you posted I found that your color space was sRGB. I just wondered how that happened if you did not take any additional step.
Apr 24, 2017 20:12:04 #
selmslie wrote:
Oh, no. I took steps somewhere. When I make a major change on my computer concerning video of any kind, I have noticed that sometimes I blow away my color spaces between lightroom and photoshop. It is always because something I did when writing code or such. For instance my color profile at the moment is Pro Photo RGB. I don't know why, it just is and I am too tired and lazy right now to rearrange things. Now, I have a bigger problem. Every time I want to post on UHH, it only allows "Download", it won't post the pic I chose. And I hate that! I'll fix it it, maybe. Like I said, I am very tired from working long hours and don't feel like doing anything. Anyway, we are digressing from this gentleman's post.When I looked at this image you posted I found that your color space was sRGB. I just wondered how that happened if you did not take any additional step.
Apr 25, 2017 05:07:34 #
tainkc wrote:
Oh, no. I took steps somewhere. When I make a ma... (show quote)
So it seems that Adobe can screw things up when your back is turned, even for someone with your experience. Is it any surprise that it might do the same for others?
I randomly picked four of your posts from about six months ago and three of them came up as sRGB and another one "uncalibrated".
For the benefit of vininnj2u and anyone else, sticking to sRGB throughout your processing is in keeping with the KISS principle. There does not seem to be a downside.
Apr 25, 2017 07:02:57 #
selmslie wrote:
adobe did not screw anything up. Things only changed as I did things. Not an Adobe issue at all. On my system, sRGB seems to be the setting to go to so that my thumbnails approximate my downloadable pix.So it seems that Adobe can screw things up when your back is turned, even for someone with your experience. Is it any surprise that it might do the same for others?
I randomly picked four of your posts from about six months ago and three of them came up as sRGB and another one "uncalibrated".
For the benefit of vininnj2u and anyone else, sticking to sRGB throughout your processing is in keeping with the KISS principle. There does not seem to be a downside.
I randomly picked four of your posts from about six months ago and three of them came up as sRGB and another one "uncalibrated".
For the benefit of vininnj2u and anyone else, sticking to sRGB throughout your processing is in keeping with the KISS principle. There does not seem to be a downside.
Apr 25, 2017 07:14:24 #
tainkc wrote:
adobe did not screw anything up. Things only changed as I did things. Not an Adobe issue at all. On my system, sRGB seems to be the setting to go to so that my thumbnails approximate my downloadable pix.
Nobody in the room but you, Microsoft (I assume) and Adobe. Somebody dropped the ball. I'm guessing MS did not change Adobe's settings. That leaves two.
Maybe Lightroom and Adobe CC are not 100% compatible or maybe they are too complex.
Apr 25, 2017 07:41:51 #
selmslie wrote:
Nobody dropped the ball. I have never had a problem with Microsoft or Adobe that I did not create myself - much of it intentional. Lightroom was designed as a "compliment to", not an "instead of" to photoshop. Of course they are 100% compatible. I have no idea what your problem is. I'm done.Nobody in the room but you, Microsoft (I assume) and Adobe. Somebody dropped the ball. I'm guessing MS did not change Adobe's settings. That leaves two.
Maybe Lightroom and Adobe CC are not 100% compatible or maybe they are too complex.
Maybe Lightroom and Adobe CC are not 100% compatible or maybe they are too complex.
Apr 25, 2017 08:57:20 #
tainkc wrote:
... Lightroom was designed as a "compliment to", not an "instead of" to photoshop. Of course they are 100% compatible. ....
There is some overlap and redundancy but they do not guarantee 100% compatibility just because they are both from Adobe. It's not surprising that a change to one product might have an unintended consequence in the other.
There are two separate development groups within Adobe with different goals, priorities and schedules. Coordination must be a challenge. I spent enough time in the software business to know that and sympathize.
Apr 25, 2017 10:43:52 #
Nice. I've only seen the SOL once...on approach to LaGuardia last summer. I'd like to get a closer view of it at some point!! :)
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