Statue Of Liberty
Apr 22, 2017 14:35:58 #
vininnj2u wrote:
Looks fine on my computer before Upload.
The difference between the thumbnails that we see and the original that is now available is actually fairly simple, has nothing to do with any of the discussion so far, and has been discussed on UHH multiple times!
The original has a ProPhoto RGB color space profile, and there is a tag in the Exif data to clue in the display software. However, the thumbnail on UHH strips all Exif data, including the tag keying the color space profile. As a result when we view the thumbnail it is viewed with a default sRGB profile, not with the wider gamut ProPhoto RGB profile. Downloading the original maintains the Exif data, and the tag tells (most but not all) browsers and viewers to use ProPhoto RGB.
The solution is to convert images to sRGB color space before uploading them to UHH. The image will look just like the one using ProPhoto RGB, but it will look that way when the thumbnail is viewed too.
Apr 22, 2017 16:03:58 #
Apaflo wrote:
... The original has a ProPhoto RGB color space profile, and there is a tag in the Exif data to clue in the display software. ...
I figured this might have had something to do with it but didn't want to open that can of worms.
When I look at the Color Space information in the original the value is "Uncalibrated". Unless you see something different how would anyone know that it's ProPhoto RGB or Adobe RGB?
Regsrdless, the original looks OK on my display as well as on the Everypixel.com site.
It looks like another reason to avoid ProPhoto RGB or Adobe RGB unless you understand what they do and have a good reason to use them.
Those of us who stick with sRGB should never see this particular problem.
Apr 22, 2017 17:13:32 #
selmslie wrote:
I checked your original image using url=https://e... (show quote)
Thanks. I seemed to turn it purplish.
Apr 22, 2017 17:39:04 #
vininnj2u wrote:
Thanks. I seemed to turn it purplish.
Try changing your color space to sRGB or use Save for Web before you upload. As Apaflo mentioned, Adobe may be screwing up your colors.
Apr 22, 2017 17:58:43 #
vininnj2u wrote:
We live in Southern New Jersey, USA and we went to visit the Freedom Tower in Manhattan. On the way back on the Staten Island Ferry, (which is FREE) I took this shot. Hope you like it. Colors are a little off with this upload. I don't know why.
Apr 23, 2017 08:08:08 #
vininnj2u wrote:
We live in Southern New Jersey, USA and we went to visit the Freedom Tower in Manhattan. On the way back on the Staten Island Ferry, (which is FREE) I took this shot. Hope you like it. Colors are a little off with this upload. I don't know why.
Nice shot
Apr 23, 2017 09:22:09 #
Apr 23, 2017 10:39:41 #
Apaflo wrote:
... The solution is to convert images to sRGB color space before uploading them to UHH. The image will look just like the one using ProPhoto RGB, but it will look that way when the thumbnail is viewed too.
That does not work very well.
I used Capture NX 2 to convert the downloaded image from ProPhoto RGB to sRGB and it helped but the image and thumbnail are still a bit dark.
I also tried Save for Web using Photoshop Elements and it make matters worse on my PC - no apparent improvement on UHH.
So it seems that if you want to display your images on the Internet you might as well edit them and save them using sRGB.
It's just another reason I avoid Adobe altogether.
Apr 23, 2017 10:57:00 #
selmslie wrote:
That does not work very well.
It works perfectly well... if you understand it and do it right. The point is to make the image look as you want it while using the sRGB color space. As I've stated elsewhere more than once doing all editing in a wide gamut and blindly converting to sRGB for display means you have no idea what will be displayed.
Slow your horse down and pay attention to details! This topic of color space is one that you scatter comments all over about, with no continuity from thread to thread. Trying to confuse these issues by purposeful contention is non productive
Apr 23, 2017 11:10:37 #
Apaflo wrote:
It works perfectly well... if you understand it a... (show quote)
I agreed with your statement that if you, "... make the image look as you want it while using the sRGB color space" you won't have the problem." Maybe you did not notice my statement that, "... if you want to display your images on the Internet you might as well edit them and save them using sRGB."
Changing the color space alone without re-editing the image (as with "Save for Web") is not going to solve the problem.
So who is being contentious? Not me. Why are you looking for something to argue about?
Apr 23, 2017 11:23:07 #
selmslie wrote:
I agreed with your statement that if you, "..... (show quote)
How many articles did you post to this thread, without providing the answer? How many will you post "arguing" with the article that gave the correct answer that you didn't post? This is what you commonly do...
As usual, when you get down to nothing but personal discussion, I will no longer respond.
Apr 23, 2017 11:28:50 #
Apaflo wrote:
How many articles did you post to this thread, without providing the answer? How many will you post "arguing" with the article that gave the correct answer that you didn't post? This is what you commonly do...
As usual, when you get down to nothing but personal discussion, I will no longer respond.
As usual, when you get down to nothing but personal discussion, I will no longer respond.
You are only arguing with yourself. That's not a good sign.
At least I posted some visible evidence.
Apr 23, 2017 11:34:01 #
DSLR
Loc: NV
Excellent photo - Cropping suggested
Crop to subject:
Resize to 5x5, eliminate the building at lower right
Ignore Rule of Thirds
Crop to subject:
Resize to 5x5, eliminate the building at lower right
Ignore Rule of Thirds
Apr 23, 2017 22:26:10 #
Apr 23, 2017 23:06:01 #
selmslie wrote:
Adobe is not screwing anything up. I have been using Adobe products for years and the only problems myself and others have noticed always end up being operator error despite the occasional update glitch. Problems like this is improper set up of the working template (not an Adobe problem) for the usage intended. It is that simple.Try changing your color space to sRGB or use Save for Web before you upload. As Apaflo mentioned, Adobe may be screwing up your colors.
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