BHC wrote:
I feel offended. The OP asks what seems to be a reasonable question, then spends the rest of the thread arguing with the answers he has been given. If he's going to be this close-minded about the subject, he's not going to be objective about it in his book, and I'll make a note to avoid anything written by him. Now if he had simply said something like, "I don't agree, but I appreciate the input and will cover some of the rationale in the revision", I would not feel like such a sucker for rising to his bait. Not only have his motives been deceitful, but his use (or lack thereof) of the honest input he has received indefensible as an author.
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Wow! The entire problem with this thread summed up in one post. Terrific job! I'm going to use some quotes here and also ask a question of my own. You say the OP has raised a question and then "spent the rest of the thread arguing with answers he's been given." PROVE IT! I say he has defended his stance when challenged, and challenged for whatever reason. Claiming that the OP has spent an entire thread arguing is a strong claim and again I ask you to prove that. Now my quotes,
#1 "anyone who thinks any auto exposure mode is ALWAYS the best needs to reconsider And thanks to your answers, I may have a couple situations where AP may be an excellent solution." (An excellent solution? Right John! What do you have up your sleeve, you sneaky devil)
#2 "But should clouds float by, and the ambient light keeps changing, the auto modes do have the advantage of changing for ambient. Since shutter speed is critical for image sharpness, using aperture priority with a big aperture - such as f/4 - does let the camera adjust for changing ambient while maintaining shutter speed." (Arguing like crazy here for sure)
#3 "And I just thought of another situation where aperture works well. Photograph white dome geyser erupting at dusk with the red sky behind it. The sky is gradually darkening so aperture-priority adjusts for that once the ambient exposure is set for the sky. The geyser and mound are dark, so I could use 3 or 4 filtered speedlights on manual to lighten the dark foreground. Food for thought folks, thanks." (Thanking people for eating up his brainwashing I guess?!)
#4 "I agree that aperture is often critical. So how does manual exposure not give you the same control? Just set the aperture you want, and adjust the exposure with the shutter, or even the ISO. One advantage of manual is you have shutter, aperture, and ISO available to adjust the exposure." (Agreeing that there's a use... he just doesn't understand because he has done it different and doesn't see a need?)
#5 "I completely agree. There is (usually) an exception or situation where this is a better way. Notice my weasel word "usually." There are lots of ways to get a fine result, but some ways do work easier than others. Most of the time, I could get a fine exposure with any of the exposure modes, but some require much less fussung than others for the situation." (He completely agrees? Sure he does! Arguing!)
#6 "When shooting HDR brackets, I find manual exposure works fine. But if in a hurry, aperture-priority does make sense since you don't want the DOF to change from shot to shot. I will be sure to mention this use of AP - thanks for the reminder." (Sure it makes sense John... sure you'll mention it John... what do you mean by that? Arguing again?)
#7 "I am just looking for situations where aperture priority is a fine way to go." (Sure you are John, you know all the situations don't ya? You arguing John?)
#8 "That is exactly what I am doing. I seldom find a use for AP, but I do want to promote its use for situations where it works really well. I have a few now, so I won't abandon it." (John arguing with me here)
#9 "I don't mind people not agreeing with me because then I have a chance to learn something." (FOR SURE ARGUING HERE... ARGUING THE WHOLE THREAD? NO DOUBT!)
... and then John is in full on defend mode... defending himself from the onslaught of grenades lobbed his direction... 11 pages into the thread and I dont blame him! Spends the entire thread arguing? PROVE IT! THAT'S A STRONG CLAIM! Deceitful? What EXACTLY did he lie about? You claim deceit? Prove it! What EXACTLY did he lie about? And hasn't or not using the input he's received being indefensible? PROVE IT! See examples 1, 2, 3, 6, and 8! If you're gonna throw those grenades you better be able to back that up! Making a note to avoid his books should be fine, I'd say you've got plenty of open file space.