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Mar 21, 2017 22:01:56   #
GAlanFInk
 
My camera doesn't, and can't, make a photograph.

Period... end of discussion.

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Mar 21, 2017 22:25:55   #
BebuLamar
 
G Brown wrote:
The poster suggested that he was learning how to take photographs and had decided to only use manual. In which case he is juggling at least 3 variables in every situation, every time. That is not the best way to learn the capabilities of your camera. Add all the rest of the things he has to get right and he is setting himself up to be frustrated.

Photography isn't difficult...you either follow other people's advice (With different cameras and lenses and varying skills) or learn how to do what you want with the camera that you have. The camera modes and pre-sets simply point you in the various selective directions to explore (focus, movement and light) The KISS principle.

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The poster suggested that he was learning how to t... (show quote)


And Manual is the easiest and simplest.

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Mar 21, 2017 23:29:41   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
GAlanFInk wrote:
My camera doesn't, and can't, make a photograph.

Period... end of discussion.


Doesn't what?

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Mar 21, 2017 23:42:56   #
MW
 
It may be worth while some day turning this on its head. Use manual everything ( or "P" anyway) and concentrate entirely on the composition, the relationship of elements of the image to one
another. Probably not what you want to do exclusively in the long run but could be interesting

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Mar 21, 2017 23:43:03   #
MW
 
It may be worth while some day turning this on its head. Use manual everything ( or "P" anyway) and concentrate entirely on the composition, the relationship of elements of the image to one
another. Probably not what you want to do exclusively in the long run but could be interesting

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Mar 22, 2017 03:55:43   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Rloren wrote:
Like I tell my wife, my smart phone is a computer that makes phone calls. My 1st DSLR is a computer that takes pictures.While I realize all these settings and syncing may be advantageous as I learn everything, if I just go manual all the way I bypass all the bells and whistles and can begin shooting. Same with the first flash unit I purchased..settings, settings, sync, buttons, etc. I just put that on manual too and began shooting. I guess if I really learn all this technology I can sync my camera to cook a turkey, start my car in the winter, and order take out.
I am learning, but is there anyone else who thinks this way? You be the computer that runs the show...?
Like I tell my wife, my smart phone is a computer ... (show quote)


Beginners tend to overthink stuff!
Bad photography can be done in any mode, as can good photography.
Once you learn the difference, than start to experiment and specialize. Good luck
SS

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Mar 22, 2017 03:58:43   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
GAlanFInk wrote:
My camera doesn't, and can't, make a photograph.

Period... end of discussion.


Neither can most photographers..., they just point their eye-level camera and snap. Period... end of discussion.
SS

Alan, welcome to the Hog!!!

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Mar 22, 2017 05:38:02   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
Rloren wrote:
Like I tell my wife, my smart phone is a computer that makes phone calls. My 1st DSLR is a computer that takes pictures.While I realize all these settings and syncing may be advantageous as I learn everything, if I just go manual all the way I bypass all the bells and whistles and can begin shooting. Same with the first flash unit I purchased..settings, settings, sync, buttons, etc. I just put that on manual too and began shooting. I guess if I really learn all this technology I can sync my camera to cook a turkey, start my car in the winter, and order take out.
I am learning, but is there anyone else who thinks this way? You be the computer that runs the show...?
Like I tell my wife, my smart phone is a computer ... (show quote)


Go for it, works for me!! Its just easier than learning all the bells and whistles Just two little wheels and the ISO button.
However I do use auto focus for moving subjects and landscapes

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Mar 22, 2017 05:53:03   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Rloren wrote:
Like I tell my wife, my smart phone is a computer that makes phone calls. My 1st DSLR is a computer that takes pictures.While I realize all these settings and syncing may be advantageous as I learn everything, if I just go manual all the way I bypass all the bells and whistles and can begin shooting. Same with the first flash unit I purchased..settings, settings, sync, buttons, etc. I just put that on manual too and began shooting. I guess if I really learn all this technology I can sync my camera to cook a turkey, start my car in the winter, and order take out.
I am learning, but is there anyone else who thinks this way? You be the computer that runs the show...?
Like I tell my wife, my smart phone is a computer ... (show quote)


For balanced flash inside and out I have always stayed with Manual. Today's flash units can be fooled too easily especially outside. So, for me, it has always been manual with flash.

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Mar 22, 2017 06:07:41   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Rloren wrote:
Like I tell my wife, my smart phone is a computer that makes phone calls. My 1st DSLR is a computer that takes pictures.While I realize all these settings and syncing may be advantageous as I learn everything, if I just go manual all the way I bypass all the bells and whistles and can begin shooting. Same with the first flash unit I purchased..settings, settings, sync, buttons, etc. I just put that on manual too and began shooting. I guess if I really learn all this technology I can sync my camera to cook a turkey, start my car in the winter, and order take out.
I am learning, but is there anyone else who thinks this way? You be the computer that runs the show...?
Like I tell my wife, my smart phone is a computer ... (show quote)


The electronics is why I love the new cameras. If you are manually setting per the meter to get the correct exposure then you are manually doing exactly what the camera would do quicker and better. Want Av mode or TV mode it sets the other parameters etc.
No I do not want to go back to manual including focus as I get more keepers with AF especially in subjects where speed is paramount.

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Mar 22, 2017 06:26:11   #
Grnway Loc: Manchester, NH
 
Here's another way to look at it:

If you're confident in your ability to shoot manual, then you can take any camera out there, no matter your familiarity, and shoot with good result, as long as you can find manual mode, shutter speed selector, and aperature setting on the blessed thing!

However, I don't think most of us spent upwards of several thousands of dollars on these things to be so restricted. I shoot manual in controlled environments, with cooperative subjects, when I have the time. However, most of the time I'm aperature priority, with occasional switches to shutter priority as needed.

The camera is a tool, providing several different ways to come to a desired result. I use it as such.

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Mar 22, 2017 06:29:24   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
Good idea keeping it on the phone.

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Mar 22, 2017 06:46:33   #
ziggy_nc
 
HI, I use a mixed of both until I learn how to use my SDLR also. I purchase a SDLR this year also and it been a learn curve, but having fun do so. I sign up for Creative Live online courses for the my camera and for their beginner work shop. I also just google what is good camera setting for landscape (etc..) and experiment . Until I can master the setting, I used both. If you take a few pictures with "Auto" or "Program", then when I open the picture on the computer (sorry I am a MAC user) and check the setting it used.

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Mar 22, 2017 06:50:22   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
And I think my microwave is a computer that take photographs.... There is nothing wrong with using automated features as long as you understand them and control them to get the results you want. These days that is one of the things that differentiates a "photographer" from "someone who takes pictures".

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Mar 22, 2017 07:05:54   #
JoAnneK01 Loc: Lahaina, Hawaii
 
I do like shooting manual. Although sometimes I'll place it on Auto to see what the computer thinks and then I can also adjust from there. I do use the auto focus all of the time for I have to depend on the camera to focus for I can no longer focus the camera manually. And unfortunately I believe that I will have to use all of the automatic functions of the camera. I can no longer drive but I do refuse to give up my photography.

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