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Oct 21, 2016 14:30:29   #
Ralloh Loc: Ohio
 
doreens61 wrote:
I'm a wedding and event phoptgrapher that's still stuck in auto. Anyone have any ideas on some material out there or videos that will help me get out of auto?


You do weddings and events yet have no clue how to get out of "auto". This is a joke post, right? Please say it's a joke post.

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Oct 21, 2016 15:02:18   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Doreen, I mostly shoot in manual mode. However, for event photography, I stuck a SB-800 on by D700 and set it to auto. Composition is all I worried about. I admire your interest in working in manual, but for expediency, Auto at weddings and events is a time saver.

If you have the opportunity within the event to take a few minutes for "that special" photo, then by all means manual is nice. But, even then, I've spent a bit more time on post processing a well done 'auto' mode photo than mess with camera settings during an event where things can happen quickly.
--Bob


doreens61 wrote:
I'm a wedding and event phoptgrapher that's still stuck in auto. Anyone have any ideas on some material out there or videos that will help me get out of auto?

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Oct 21, 2016 16:01:58   #
GENorkus Loc: Washington Twp, Michigan
 
lamiaceae wrote:

Event? I've shot musical performances in dimly lite bars and concert halls and believe me you can't shoot on AE/AF easily in such low light. I often brace myself against a door jam or post or something. And just pray they stop moving. I really don't like flash and neither do the performers.




Three years of covering bar bands, I know what you mean! So many others tell me rock concerts are "low light" and I just laugh at them. In a two hour period, I probably averaged about 60 useable shots. Guessing a 100 were trashed.

When you get a flashless shot of a performer only lite by one 60 watt tungsten lightbulb located 20-30 feet away, then you know what low light really is!

*(You'd better not want high key shots!) LoL

Here are some. Most bar bands, some popular.
http://www.facebook.com/GENorkusPhotography-142634195803011/photos/?tab=album&album_id=159166657483098

This is the 60 watt bulb shot I talked about above.
http://www.facebook.com/142634195803011/photos/a.159166657483098.42367.142634195803011/377219052344523/?type=3&theater

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Oct 21, 2016 16:19:11   #
BebuLamar
 
Doreen didn't response again may be still stuck in auto.
Auto I think we are talking about exposure that means aperture, shutter speed and ISO.
With the camera in P you can make it virtually set those 3 settings at any value you want using the program shift, exposure compensation, exposure lock and the ISO control.
If you you started out in manual you would never stuck in auto.

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Oct 21, 2016 16:23:25   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
doreens61 wrote:
I'm a wedding and event phoptgrapher that's still stuck in auto. Anyone have any ideas on some material out there or videos that will help me get out of auto?


I think if you don't get yourself out of that car, you will miss the wedding!!
Don't call us, call 911, the FD will arrive with the jaws of life and extricate you.
Then GET IN THERE before the wedding is over!!!
SS

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Oct 21, 2016 16:33:12   #
Jeroldh
 
Why are there so many negative comments? Why not offer help to someone seeking it rather than making disparaging remarks. If you don't have something helpful to say just keep quiet.

Shame on you.

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Oct 21, 2016 16:52:24   #
BebuLamar
 
Jeroldh wrote:
Why are there so many negative comments? Why not offer help to someone seeking it rather than making disparaging remarks. If you don't have something helpful to say just keep quiet.

Shame on you.


Some people do deserve it!

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Oct 21, 2016 16:56:49   #
rocket111
 
I don't want to sound like a smart ass. But it kinda sounds like Doreen could get by using a phone

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Oct 21, 2016 16:57:28   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Some people do deserve it!


there is no dumb questions. who cares if she pulling anyones leg. there people on uhh are in this position. sure it will help them. all you people doing is discouraging others from asking questions. now that is dumb.

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Oct 21, 2016 16:59:47   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
Wedding dresses tend to be white and worn for just one day...

Jeroldh wrote:
Why are there so many negative comments? Why not offer help to someone seeking it rather than making disparaging remarks. If you don't have something helpful to say just keep quiet.

Shame on you.

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Oct 21, 2016 17:24:21   #
Sinewsworn Loc: Port Orchard, WA
 
Jim Bob wrote:
I take it auto is not working for you. Just try some other modes in non-crititcal situations. It's that simple. Geesus.



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Oct 21, 2016 17:32:31   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Jim Bob wrote:
You don't need to shoot RAW to escape auto. Come on, man.


Of course you don't, but shooting raw is a good idea in general. Especially if you want to get detail in both black and white clothing. Besides, for weddings, there is no faster way to high quality consistent client proofs. Been there, done that many many times, so I know that it works. Did it the other way, and raw is unquestionable better. How about yourself, man . . .

Besides, shooting raw will help her get better with her camera and post processing. Editing raw files for white and color balance is way easier in a raw converter, and when you need to edit 900 files you can do it way faster than screwing around with jpegs one at a time.

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Oct 21, 2016 17:47:31   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Rongnongno wrote:
'Pro' means nothing today other than selling captures to anyone wanting to purchase anything.

This is a sign of the times. Long gone is the era when one had to lug cameras around and learn how to learn the damned stuff. (See my arms are tired, what strap should I use thread)

Today the push is auto everything even in pro cameras when before the 'pro cameras' were manual, some w/o a meter even.

The cost of making errors was incredible from loss of clientele to the monetary loss. With the 'burst mode', auto 'everything' and nearly endless capacities of the new cards what pushed us to really learn is simply gone so... A camera is now a simple slow video from which you pick 'the best' out of a zillion garbage shots.

So is the op a pro? According to today's definition, he/she sells so, yes. According to yesterday? He/she is nobody. Simple as that.

Good or bad? Well, it is even simpler: If someone is willingly paying for something it appears to be 'good'. If one wants results that are above a cell phone in quality it also may (not) be (so) good/bad.

Then you have the 'apparent professionalism' of a photographer and their photography has nothing to do. I have seen morons better dressed than the groom taking pictures in the 80's!!! I have also seen a 'photographer' who was more a 'scenarist/director' than a photographer. He had everyone under tight control and instructed OTHER photographers on where to be, when to take the picture while directing the poor saps (newly weds and guests) like props...

If you go the wedding section on this site you will find true professionals but also some folks who are... Well, really bad. Yet these folks sell so...

Who is a pro? Only 'information and expectation' can help someone select a photographer. Since that has gone the way of the dodos one can be hard-pressed to say one 'is not' a photographer. The client does not or is unable to see any difference other than price...

(Sorry no time to try to correct, need to go.... And not to the loo)
'Pro' means nothing today other than selling captu... (show quote)


Off topic -

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Oct 21, 2016 17:51:23   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
doreens61 wrote:
I'm a wedding and event phoptgrapher that's still stuck in auto. Anyone have any ideas on some material out there or videos that will help me get out of auto?


BTW, after three pages, no one has identified the question that should be asked - what is it about auto that isn't working for you? Can you post an example of where it has failed to get the results you are looking for?

If you are not comfortable responding on this thread, send me a PM and I will try and give you some ideas. I understand - there are a lot of people who like to see what they write on a forum without giving any thought or making any effort to actually provide any useful information.

For the record, I shoot events like these two ways - auto and manual - and often during the same event. I also almost always use flash - but never on camera, and almost never just one speedlight. And I never ever point a flash at a subject. Clearly there are a lot of other considerations besides setting A or M or S on the dial. Working for a pro or setting up a mentoring relationship with one will get you there faster and better.

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Oct 21, 2016 17:58:42   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Jcmarino wrote:
How long have you been shooting? Are you serious about wanting to be a professional wedding photographer? I mean for years to come? What camera do you use? Do you want to be creative or just take snapshots? Do you use natural light or flash, other? Which should you use and why? Do your photos look like those in highly respected bridal magazines? Do you want them too? If this is something you want to so bad it hurts, then you will do whatever it takes to become the best at what you do.

I suggest you read all you can and go back to the basics, work as a second shooter until you feel comfortable with your camera and can move quickly through the settings and understand why you are choosing them. If you want to stay in this business professionally, you have to know your gear. How to, what to and when to use it and for weddings, and be quick about it. A lot of wedding photogs shoot in aperture priority for the ceremony. That is about as automatic as you should be. You need to be in control not the camera, so take that control. Let today be the first day of your new career, take a step back to become the photographer you dream to be. You will be amazed a year from now how far you have come. Never stop learning, practicing and enjoying your dream.
How long have you been shooting? Are you serious a... (show quote)


Harsh . . .

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