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May 4, 2012 15:12:57   #
Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
 
The following is an excerpt from a speech a dear friend of mine gave just weeks before he passed. He was a WWII vet and this is the only reference to the war I ever heard him make. I found this yesterday while cleaning out a file cabinet.

I am a conservative and I don’t believe in abortion BUT I fought and took the lives of other men so that you could disagree. I don’t believe in same sex marriage BUT I fought and took the lives of other men so that you could disagree. I don’t like big government BUT I fought and took the lives of other men so that you could disagree. I believe in God the Father and Jesus the Son BUT I fought and took the lives of other men so that you could disagree. I believe that God created BUT I fought and took the lives of other men so that you could disagree. I am a conservative; I fought and took the lives of other men so that you could disagree NOT so you could call me names when you disagree. You want to thank me for my service? Here’s how, respect those who disagree with you and remember that many gave their lives so they could.

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May 4, 2012 16:19:32   #
R Dubs Loc: Linloln,Ne.
 
:thumbup:

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May 4, 2012 17:15:21   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Wow. That's one of the reasons they are the Greatest Generation. I will remember that.

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May 4, 2012 17:28:54   #
Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
 
One of the things that struck me was that we generally think in terms of the lives that were lost in battle and seldom reflect on the pain our service people feel about the lives they had to take.

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May 4, 2012 17:30:30   #
sinatraman Loc: Vero Beach Florida, Earth,alpha quaudrant
 
bravo! bravo! Im giving you a standing ovation. very well said.

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May 4, 2012 18:04:24   #
ward5311 Loc: Georgia
 
Pepper wrote:
One of the things that struck me was that we generally think in terms of the lives that were lost in battle and seldom reflect on the pain our service people feel about the lives they had to take.


Yes and most would never talk about it. They seek no recognition. They harbor these things for years. The greatest generation..Absolutely..Nam vets heroes? Absolutely. But I also have the utmost respect for our young soldiers..They too are heroes in my book..They are given ridculous rules of engagement that get many killed or wounded..In WWII it is was simple..You kill the enemy before he kills you or your brothers..Period.
There was no PC bullshit to deal with. Our young men and women are being told to fight for purely political gains..DO you think McAurthur or Patton were concerned about PC?
I am sickened by anyone that would use the lives of these
soldiers for political gains. This happens on both sides of the isle. If permitted I would gladly take the place of one young man in Afghanistan. I have faced death several times and I am not afraid to die. I have been around for 59 years. I'd trade that today for a young 21 yo soldier. Sorry for the rant but this is very close to me and I don't hold my feelings in.

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May 4, 2012 23:23:10   #
Danilo Loc: Las Vegas
 
Thank you for posting that, Pepper. As I was reading it many things came to mind and I was going to have several comments. As I reached the end I realized the best comment would be no comment...he said it all.
Thanks again.

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May 5, 2012 00:02:44   #
photo guy Loc: Chippewa Falls, WI
 
:thumbup: :thumbup:

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May 5, 2012 06:11:35   #
rfbccb Loc: Central Mississippi
 
How true.

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May 5, 2012 06:21:05   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Strange how todays ultra-conservatives are really against the conservative statements of Pepper's friend. They are wanting to constrict the Bill of Rights and to intrude on personal freedoms of people. Please do not confuse People with "people" as defined by the present Supreme (questionable) Court. To quote Romney, "Well, companies are people too, my friend." Hell NO, companies are not people. Distortion of language erodes the reasoning ability of our populous. Step by step Mega-industries are by way of contributions (Bribery) taking over our government. The loss of well defined standards of language will lose all that Pepper's friend and our relatives fought for. Please see the you-tube presentation of a professor of linguistics. While he is a "liberal" it does not make what he has to say about distortion of language less true, nor would his religion or the size of his shoes... what he says is analytical assessment of utilization of language for political power.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo4whfUDPcU

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May 5, 2012 06:27:58   #
rfbccb Loc: Central Mississippi
 
dpullum wrote:
Strange how todays ultra-conservatives are really against the conservative statements of Pepper's friend. They are wanting to constrict the Bill of Rights and to intrude on personal freedoms of people. Please do not confuse People with "people" as defined by the present Supreme (questionable) Court. To quote Romney, "Well, companies are people too, my friend." Hell NO, companies are not people. Distortion of language erodes the reasoning ability of our populous. Step by step Mega-industries are by way of contributions (Bribery) taking over our government. The loss of well defined standards of language will lose all that Pepper's friend and our relatives fought for. Please see the you-tube presentation of a professor of linguistics. While he is a "liberal" it does not make what he has to say about distortion of language less true, nor would his religion or the size of his shoes... what he says is analytical assessment of utilization of language for political power.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo4whfUDPcU
Strange how todays ultra-conservatives are really ... (show quote)


Why not have left the mans words alone and not start another political arguement thread? How distasteful.

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May 5, 2012 06:40:07   #
Grumpy D Stevens
 
dpullum wrote:
Strange how todays ultra-conservatives are really against the conservative statements of Pepper's friend. They are wanting to constrict the Bill of Rights and to intrude on personal freedoms of people. Please do not confuse People with "people" as defined by the present Supreme (questionable) Court. To quote Romney, "Well, companies are people too, my friend." Hell NO, companies are not people. Distortion of language erodes the reasoning ability of our populous. Step by step Mega-industries are by way of contributions (Bribery) taking over our government. The loss of well defined standards of language will lose all that Pepper's friend and our relatives fought for. Please see the you-tube presentation of a professor of linguistics. While he is a "liberal" it does not make what he has to say about distortion of language less true, nor would his religion or the size of his shoes... what he says is analytical assessment of utilization of language for political power.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo4whfUDPcU
Strange how todays ultra-conservatives are really ... (show quote)


Sorry, but it is not the ultra conservatives who want to take away our freedoms and liberties. It is the left! Who are the ones who want to control the internet? Which wants to take off of the air waves the likes of Rush, and Glenn, and others who are actually telling the truth about what the government is doing to us? It is the ultra liberals, or should I call them what they like: progressives. In my opinion, they are also socialists, and communists; some of the radicals are even worse.
But it is not the conservatives. MOST of the conservatives want to blow the lid off of the "secret" crap that the government is doing to us. Unfortunately, the media in this country is of the leftist variety and they would never dream of actually reporting the news as they should. They only report what they want us to know. Government is the problem, period.

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May 5, 2012 06:47:58   #
LARRYR. Loc: Saint Martinville, La.
 
I agree 100% with dpullum, I my self have fallen in to
the trap of turning someone's posting into a political
one, an I am sorry for having done so so many times.
My true feeling as a war veteran on what is a true hero
is someone who is willing to give up all, even life its
self,inorder for others to be free.Thanks Pepper, your
dear friend trully knew the true meaning of FREEDOM, which
so offen we ourselves need to be reminded of.God bless

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May 5, 2012 07:10:42   #
rfbccb Loc: Central Mississippi
 
LARRYR. wrote:
I agree 100% with dpullum, I my self have fallen in to
the trap of turning someone's posting into a political
one, an I am sorry for having done so so many times.
My true feeling as a war veteran on what is a true hero
is someone who is willing to give up all, even life its
self,inorder for others to be free.Thanks Pepper, your
dear friend trully knew the true meaning of FREEDOM, which
so offen we ourselves need to be reminded of.God bless


You might want to read dpullmum post again. He is the one who is turning it into a political arguement. Or maybe I misunderstood your post and you do agree with it?

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May 5, 2012 07:12:30   #
kevindunne
 
I agree....to bring politics into it is just bad form.

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