Over exposure of sky problems
Apr 22, 2012 11:43:42 #
Shooting toward the sun is nice for not having squinty eyed people, but shooting away from the sun may do some of what you want.
Apr 22, 2012 11:55:03 #
Apr 22, 2012 12:10:06 #
Apr 22, 2012 12:13:40 #
Apr 22, 2012 12:21:03 #
Oh my goodness - for the kinds of images you showed us, just forget about the sky as it has nothing to do with anything. All this stuff about ND filters and post processing is (just in my opinion) a colossal waste of time. Most of rthe suggestions - no matter how well-intentioned - won't work all that well anyway.
Just take the family images and enjoy them - the sky has nothing to do with anything.
Now, if you are going to make a true portrait-style image, that is a different story as the background is very important.
Just take the family images and enjoy them - the sky has nothing to do with anything.
Now, if you are going to make a true portrait-style image, that is a different story as the background is very important.
Apr 22, 2012 12:40:27 #
Setting your external flash to high speed sync and using a fast shutter speed. This photo was shot in bright sunlightwith a shutter speed of 1/3000; f/4; ISO 100 using a Canon Speedlight 580EXii
SteveR wrote:
I think that you actually have to shoot at a faster speed to get blue skies...at least 1/325th. You may have to go to a higher ISO.
Nikki at Noon
Apr 22, 2012 13:05:02 #
Old Redeye wrote:
Setting your external flash to high speed sync and using a fast shutter speed. This photo was shot in bright sunlightwith a shutter speed of 1/3000; f/4; ISO 100 using a Canon Speedlight 580EXii
SteveR wrote:
I think that you actually have to shoot at a faster speed to get blue skies...at least 1/325th. You may have to go to a higher ISO.
Really nice shot!!
Apr 22, 2012 13:09:13 #
johnbee418
Loc: Manchester Conn.
Shoot B&W, throw a red or yellow filter on the lens, and SHOOT, SHOOT, SHOOT.
Apr 22, 2012 13:28:50 #
Old Redeye wrote:
Setting your external flash to high speed sync and using a fast shutter speed. This photo was shot in bright sunlightwith a shutter speed of 1/3000; f/4; ISO 100 using a Canon Speedlight 580EXii
SteveR wrote:
I think that you actually have to shoot at a faster speed to get blue skies...at least 1/325th. You may have to go to a higher ISO.
That is an EXCELLENT example of the use of the high-speed sync capabilities of the Canon and Nikon systems.
However, for the issue posed by the OP, the loss of flash range inherent in the HSS mode, makes it not as useful as one might hope. The principle, however, is right on the money.
Apr 22, 2012 14:22:39 #
I think this would be a good use of HDR, assuming you can get everyone to stay relatively motionless for the time it takes to get three exposures. I use Photomatrix for HDR processing, and it takes care of fairly large movements of people, etc.
Apr 22, 2012 14:34:29 #
OK - i go back to the two images posted at the beginning as the problem.
These are family snapshots - nice ones, but snapshots. Why on earth would you want to go around asking everyone to "FREEZE!" so you can take what is no longer a candid image but an awkward stopping of what they are doing so you can bracket 3-4-5 exposures and then have to go through the whole HDR thing with every photo that has a sky in it?
This is becoming an exercise in "measure with a micrometer, mark it with a crayon, and cut it with an axe!"
GEEEZ - just take the family photos and don't worry about the stupid sky.
These are family snapshots - nice ones, but snapshots. Why on earth would you want to go around asking everyone to "FREEZE!" so you can take what is no longer a candid image but an awkward stopping of what they are doing so you can bracket 3-4-5 exposures and then have to go through the whole HDR thing with every photo that has a sky in it?
This is becoming an exercise in "measure with a micrometer, mark it with a crayon, and cut it with an axe!"
GEEEZ - just take the family photos and don't worry about the stupid sky.
Apr 22, 2012 14:43:11 #
nursephoto wrote:
If you have Photoshop Elements the quickest and easiest way in found here: http://www.alibony.com/video/video-lesson12.htm
I have read through every comment here and I want to thank you all of you for every suggestion. I may have to look into some filters. I have never used one so don't have any experience or knowledge about them.
As I said before, I'm not worried about the party pictures I just took, but I have been in situations where the background did need to look nice. Picture 2 is an example of a wedding where the background was awful to work with. I did fix them all (including straightening this one..lol), but it took some time, that's why I wanted to know if this was a fixable problem.
nursephoto: I have that video you posted and that is how I fix skies. It works very well. Thanks for posting it.
Image 1 is the results of my original post using that method but just doing a hurry up job.
Thanks again to all of you! You are all awesome!
achammar
Sky fixed
Wedding - hard to work with example
Apr 22, 2012 15:06:35 #
docrob
Loc: Durango, Colorado
silver wrote:
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I agree - everything including Nikons and Photoshop has limits. This discussion has gotten way to complicated - the simple solution is for the shooter to change their expectations and simply accept life's limitations.
Apr 22, 2012 15:15:30 #
Apr 22, 2012 17:13:44 #
I notice in both photos you are facing the sun. The shadows from the trees are coming toward you. Your sky will always be white in that situation. Have the sun at your back, and it is much easier to get a blue sky. I learned that from a photo tip from one of the photo sites on the computer, not sure which one.
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