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Apr 22, 2012 08:53:59   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
rayford2 wrote:
Would this be a good example for HDR?


only if you like to turn the kids into caricatures of themselves

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Apr 22, 2012 09:20:59   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
rayford2 wrote:
Would this be a good example for HDR?
Not true HDR with moving people (requires multiple exposures) but the OP could fake it by shooting raw (which I believe they did) and process the image for a fake exposure bracket.

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Apr 22, 2012 09:26:40   #
Madeline Loc: San Diego, California USA
 
I agree great birthday shots. Let us know if the increased shutter speed works, just new to hedgehog and light room what would be the steps to fix the sky in my room ? Thanks

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Apr 22, 2012 09:28:10   #
Madeline Loc: San Diego, California USA
 
Lightroom sorry typo

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Apr 22, 2012 09:35:34   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
Bill41 wrote:
Consider a gradient ND filter.


Or several - they are quite effective in doing what you want to do

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Apr 22, 2012 09:35:37   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Madeline wrote:
Lightroom sorry typo
You can go in and edit your response for up to an hour. (I do it all the time with my dyslexic fingers) Just hit "Edit Response"
Welcome to the "hog"!

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Apr 22, 2012 09:39:56   #
Madeline Loc: San Diego, California USA
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Madeline wrote:
Lightroom sorry typo
You can go in and edit your response for up to an hour. (I do it all the time with my dyslexic fingers) Just hit "Edit Response"
Welcome to the "hog"!
thanks

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Apr 22, 2012 09:41:21   #
henryl
 
I would approach your problem in a differet way. First, what is the correct exposure for the sky? Let us say it is 1/200 at F11. Set your camera to that exposure now put your flash at a distance so that F11 is the correct exposure for your subjects. Do you use ttl or can you dial down the amount of light coming from your flash? :P

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Apr 22, 2012 09:46:26   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
As BirdPix previously mentioned, flash will fix the foreground, and you might be able to get the sky to show up with a higher shutter speed, but the middle ground is going to go dark. A graduated ND filter might help if none of the people or middle ground are in the darkened area.

If I had to, I have a rather large stock file of sky & clouds and would be tempted to Photoshop a sky into the background. Personally, I like the first shot as it is.

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Apr 22, 2012 09:57:21   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
rayford2 wrote:
Would this be a good example for HDR?


In my opinion? No. the subjects are moving around...I don't know how you could get good HDR that way.

I like HDR but HDR gets used so much it takes all the dynamics out of a scene and renders everything neutral in value...LOTS of tiny detail...but neutral in dynamic range.

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Apr 22, 2012 10:02:49   #
JayJay Loc: Eastern Washington State
 
I agree with rayford2 that ,because of the wide dynamic range of light, HDR would answer achammar's question. However, I don't think the blue sky is needed to tell the story in this image. The picture is in the people. JayJay

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Apr 22, 2012 10:03:37   #
rayford2 Loc: New Bethlehem, PA
 
rpavich wrote:
rayford2 wrote:
Would this be a good example for HDR?


In my opinion? No. the subjects are moving around...I don't know how you could get good HDR that way.

I like HDR but HDR gets used so much it takes all the dynamics out of a scene and renders everything neutral in value...LOTS of tiny detail...but neutral in dynamic range.


OOPS, I forgot things have to stay put for HDR.
I never did any HDR so I'm grabbing at straws with questions like this.

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Apr 22, 2012 10:06:42   #
nursephoto
 
If you have Photoshop Elements the quickest and easiest way in found here: http://www.alibony.com/video/video-lesson12.htm

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Apr 22, 2012 10:17:08   #
gdwsr Loc: Northern California
 
Great party shots. Give a Graduated neutral density filter a try. It is the simplest and I think you will like the results. You can get a good used one at Adorama

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Apr 22, 2012 10:49:50   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
achammar wrote:
I am having trouble with taking pictures in shaded areas and getting the sky in the background to not be way overly exposed. The sky almost always comes out white. Of course I can fix this, but sometimes there are a lot of them and it takes a lot of time to fix them all and it would be nice to just have it right in camera.
Here are 2 examples of my grandson"s Bday party...no posed shots, just random shots.
I shot in manual and RAW. I tried all different combinations of settings and the problem is always there. I did use fill flash, but just the built in flash because I was quite close to the subjects. The first one says the flash did not fire though, so maybe the camera settings were just set for too much exposure overall.
The second one which is much darker either due to my camera settings, or post editing..I don't remember anymore..there was too many...and the flash did fire, but the background is darker but the sky is still white.
I'm thinking maybe if I would have used my SB600 at full power directly on the subjects, and set the shutter speed high and the F stop smaller, I might have got a blue sky, but the background would probably be dark. Does that sound true? Can I overcome this, or is this something that is always going to be a battle?
Thanks!
Albert
I am having trouble with taking pictures in shaded... (show quote)


Getting blue skys in impossible under the conditions you are shooting. Sometimes you just have to accept the limitations of the photographic process and be satisfied with what you are getting. Not all situations are good for photography. One solution could be to shoot these kinds of images at another time og day but you are after the impossible.

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