Photo Quality Question
Dec 10, 2015 15:21:23 #
The focus is a bit soft and there's some colour noise in her hair, but the only noticeable noise is in the background - which is easy to fix (select the background and use several and various smoothing and de-noise techniques).
In a camera from seven or so years ago, ISO 500 is not going to give you perfect noise performance, but the subject has been well rendered. Sort the background out and you have a perfectly OK picture.
In a camera from seven or so years ago, ISO 500 is not going to give you perfect noise performance, but the subject has been well rendered. Sort the background out and you have a perfectly OK picture.
Dec 10, 2015 19:10:17 #
I like the second cropped version, the first was too tight.
I didnt see any noise. unless you wanted to enlarge it a lot, then maybe some in the trees.
I didnt see any noise. unless you wanted to enlarge it a lot, then maybe some in the trees.
Dec 10, 2015 20:14:28 #
Rongnongno wrote:
Ooops forget dating then... :oops: :oops: :oops:
Note that the crop is too tight here. It works for display but not for framing. The crop needs to be opened up leaving room for a mat.
Note that the crop is too tight here. It works for display but not for framing. The crop needs to be opened up leaving room for a mat.
That does look good, Ron. Thanks.
Dec 10, 2015 23:01:11 #
Like others, I don't see much noise, even zoomed in quite a bit. The image is a little bit soft, maybe very slightly out of focus. I think the arm is in focus. At f2.8, it might not be in the sweet spot for the lens. But that aperature blurs the background nicely. The second image is over saturated (imho).
Here is what I would do with it. I used a slight Gaussian blur and some sharpening, helped the color a little bit and cropped the top. Since it is an excellent photo to start with, it is a very light touch on all those things. Cropping the top does 2 things. It removes the sky and it moves the eyes up onto the top third of the image which is more pleasing.
Jerry
Here is what I would do with it. I used a slight Gaussian blur and some sharpening, helped the color a little bit and cropped the top. Since it is an excellent photo to start with, it is a very light touch on all those things. Cropping the top does 2 things. It removes the sky and it moves the eyes up onto the top third of the image which is more pleasing.
Jerry
Dec 11, 2015 12:53:05 #
I do see noise in the picture. Im a stickler for clarity and sharpness when I can get it. I would shoot at 100 iso since she is stationary It will give you a slower shutter speed Rest the camera on a log or use a tripod it that is an issue. Shoot Raw also if available. Use the histrogram always.
thats just my opinion.
thats just my opinion.
Dec 11, 2015 13:52:42 #
Redron wrote:
I do see noise in the picture. Im a stickler for clarity and sharpness when I can get it. I would shoot at 100 iso since she is stationary It will give you a slower shutter speed Rest the camera on a log or use a tripod it that is an issue. Shoot Raw also if available. Use the histrogram always.
thats just my opinion.
thats just my opinion.
Thank you. Ryan is coming up here for Christmas, and I will show him these tips from you guys. Much appreciated.
Dec 13, 2015 11:02:55 #
If cost is a factor, tell him to research the Nikon D7100 or 7200 camera. They are not up to the full-frame D810, but a very good compromise with near professional results. Spend the extra $$ on a great lens.
Dec 13, 2015 11:03:39 #
If cost is a factor, tell him to research the Nikon D7100 or 7200 camera. They are not up to the full-frame D810, but a very good compromise with near professional results. Spend the extra $$ on a great lens.
Dec 13, 2015 11:25:08 #
snapitup wrote:
If cost is a factor, tell him to research the Nikon D7100 or 7200 camera. They are not up to the full-frame D810, but a very good compromise with near professional results. Spend the extra $$ on a great lens.
Well, at this point, he is a senior in high school, and planning on going to college next fall. He'd like a better camera, but unless he lands a high paying part time job while going to school, or some kind benefactor gives him a camera or the money to get one, he'll be using his D90 for awhile. He told me he hopes his dad will give him a D750 for his high school graduation. In the meantime, while he certainly has talent, he does have much to learn. I think we've all been down that road. I'm just thrilled that he has such a passion for photography.
Dec 15, 2015 12:10:07 #
Here are, what I believe, are your settings detailing the DOF Depth of Field. If the settings sent me were close, the total DOF was on 6 inches, front to back... everything else will be out of tack-sharp focus. How close am I?
Dec 15, 2015 12:32:05 #
Coker wrote:
Here are, what I believe, are your settings detailing the DOF Depth of Field. If the settings sent me were close, the total DOF was on 6 inches, front to back... everything else will be out of tack-sharp focus. How close am I?
I'd have to say, pretty close.
Dec 26, 2015 12:56:18 #
I saw some noise also but mostly it seems to be front focused a bit, the arm and watch are fairly sharp. (Trying to sharpen the eyes introduces artifacts)
Dec 26, 2015 13:44:35 #
Ron, without differences of opinion where would the spice of life come from? :P My take on the original image was one of openness/breathing room and I would have cropped it accordingly.
Dec 26, 2015 14:31:41 #
Thanks for all the input. I have passed all this on to Ryan, and he was receptive. He really solicits any information that he can use to improve his techniques.
Dec 27, 2015 19:20:50 #
OK! This is a nice snapshot with a pretty subject and a nice expression. I will not critique this as a formal portrait or even a casual outdoor image with professional portrait qualities. If the young photographer is interested in portrait techniques- I can get into those principles. I can say that the young fellow has some talent in getting natural expressions and attracting the attention of the pet in the image.
The big technical problem with the image is the skin tone- in the unedited image, it is magenta/blue and requires the addition of yellow/green. There is some residual cyan color in the whites, but this may be due to UV brighteners in the white fabric which tends to flourless on overcast days when the UV levels are high.High UV is not ordinarily a big issue with digital photography as it was in the film era but on very overcast or even certain cloudy/bright days the addition of the (often controversial)skylight or UV filter can do wonders for the color quality in all kinds of portraits which usually are more flattering when the color balance is on the warm side. I sometimes use my old UV-16 filter to clean up theses issues.
In this image, the lighting is coming in from directly above the subjects and has left the eyes and the eye sockets lacking in shadow detail and good catch-lights. In edition, I have dodged the eyes and the eye sockets and emphasized the dim catchlights on the subject and her doggie! I killed a few blemishes on her forehead- young ladies don't like skin issues.
The retouching is short and sweet- a 5 minute job!
Encourage the kid!
:thumbup:
The big technical problem with the image is the skin tone- in the unedited image, it is magenta/blue and requires the addition of yellow/green. There is some residual cyan color in the whites, but this may be due to UV brighteners in the white fabric which tends to flourless on overcast days when the UV levels are high.High UV is not ordinarily a big issue with digital photography as it was in the film era but on very overcast or even certain cloudy/bright days the addition of the (often controversial)skylight or UV filter can do wonders for the color quality in all kinds of portraits which usually are more flattering when the color balance is on the warm side. I sometimes use my old UV-16 filter to clean up theses issues.
In this image, the lighting is coming in from directly above the subjects and has left the eyes and the eye sockets lacking in shadow detail and good catch-lights. In edition, I have dodged the eyes and the eye sockets and emphasized the dim catchlights on the subject and her doggie! I killed a few blemishes on her forehead- young ladies don't like skin issues.
The retouching is short and sweet- a 5 minute job!
Encourage the kid!
:thumbup:
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