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Michael Behe Hasn't Been Refuted on the Flagellum
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Oct 28, 2015 19:23:25   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
LOL the irreducible complexity of the Bacterial Flagellum was in no ways refuted in this video or anywhere else. You need to know what irreducible means, the Bacterial Flagellum can not function without all of it's 40+ parts all in place at the same time. You remove (reduce) 1 or more parts, the Bacterial Flagellum is rendered inoperable. This is not a claim that none of the parts can be used elsewhere in an organism as in this case. Again, irreducible complexity indicates the Bacterial Flagellum can not be reduced and still operate. No evolution involved or can produce this. You all FAIL again.

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Oct 28, 2015 20:08:57   #
James Shaw
 
Racmanaz wrote:
LOL the irreducible complexity of the Bacterial Flagellum was in no ways refuted in this video or anywhere else. You need to know what irreducible means, the Bacterial Flagellum can not function without all of it's 40+ parts all in place at the same time. You remove (reduce) 1 or more parts, the Bacterial Flagellum is rendered inoperable. This is not a claim that none of the parts can be used elsewhere in an organism as in this case. Again, irreducible complexity indicates the Bacterial Flagellum can not be reduced and still operate. No evolution involved or can produce this. You all FAIL again.
LOL the irreducible complexity of the Bacterial Fl... (show quote)

Evolution gave rise to the bacterial flagellum, piece by piece over much time. There is no evidence that it was, all-of-a-sudden-here, with all of its parts. Evolution doesn't work that way with the flagellum. For example, contrary to evolution, man did not all of a sudden develop a completed arm any more than a bacterium all of a sudden developed a completed flagellum.

You have much to learn, but you refuse to be educated, so your choice is to remain an ignorant clown. Discussion with ignorance is not possible.

Again, you do not know what you are talking about. You choose to remain ignorant.

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Oct 28, 2015 20:21:26   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
No evidence whatsoever that the bacterial flagellum was the result of evolution. Empirical evidence shows that it had to have been designed all at the same time it can not operate with one part missing.

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Oct 28, 2015 20:24:53   #
slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again
 
Racmanaz wrote:
You all FAIL again.
Your pride and arrogance will be your downfall.....

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Oct 28, 2015 20:37:13   #
James Shaw
 
Racmanaz wrote:
No evidence whatsoever that the bacterial flagellum was the result of evolution. Empirical evidence shows that it had to have been designed all at the same time it can not operate with one part missing.
No evidence, whatsoever, that the bacterial flagellum was "designed."

Excellent evidence that the flagellum came into its current form through evolution from simpler components. You clown have been misled by the Discovery Institute, which has discovered nothing useful scientifically.

You, clown, choose to remain ignorant, but that is your problem. You need science education.

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Oct 28, 2015 20:42:09   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
slocumeddie wrote:
Your pride and arrogance will be your downfall.....


Pride is denying God and not believing in Him. You are arrogant for denying there is a God.

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Oct 28, 2015 20:45:20   #
Gnslngr
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Pride is denying God and not believing in Him. You are arrogant for denying there is a God.


Have you nothing better to do, Richard? At long last, have you nothing better to do than post this drivel?

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Oct 28, 2015 20:47:27   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
"According to Lyle's principal the best explanation is the one that invokes a cause which we know from our experience which can produce the effect we are trying to explain."- Stephen Meyer.

"There is only one known cause for information, that is Intelligence"- Stephen Meyer

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Oct 29, 2015 02:54:54   #
slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again
 
Racmanaz wrote:
"According to Lyle's principal the best explanation is the one that invokes a cause which we know from our experience which can produce the effect we are trying to explain."- Stephen Meyer.

"There is only one known cause for information, that is Intelligence"- Stephen Meyer
Still waiting on your definition of "Lyell's Principles" and a source.........

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Oct 29, 2015 03:54:07   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
Racmanaz wrote:
No evidence whatsoever that the bacterial flagellum was the result of evolution. Empirical evidence shows that it had to have been designed all at the same time it can not operate with one part missing.


Keep looking, maybe you will find something someday. Your deductions are just silly.http://www.phy.duke.edu/~rgb/Philosophy/axioms/axioms/node47.html

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Oct 29, 2015 03:54:49   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
Racmanaz wrote:
"According to Lyle's principal the best explanation is the one that invokes a cause which we know from our experience which can produce the effect we are trying to explain."- Stephen Meyer.

"There is only one known cause for information, that is Intelligence"- Stephen Meyer


Meyer is just a nut job. http://www.phy.duke.edu/~rgb/Philosophy/axioms/axioms/node47.html

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Oct 29, 2015 03:55:47   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
Racmanaz wrote:
LOL the irreducible complexity of the Bacterial Flagellum was in no ways refuted in this video or anywhere else. You need to know what irreducible means, the Bacterial Flagellum can not function without all of it's 40+ parts all in place at the same time. You remove (reduce) 1 or more parts, the Bacterial Flagellum is rendered inoperable. This is not a claim that none of the parts can be used elsewhere in an organism as in this case. Again, irreducible complexity indicates the Bacterial Flagellum can not be reduced and still operate. No evolution involved or can produce this. You all FAIL again.
LOL the irreducible complexity of the Bacterial Fl... (show quote)


I dont fail. ever. You are just delusional. http://www.phy.duke.edu/~rgb/Philosophy/axioms/axioms/node47.html

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Oct 29, 2015 07:57:06   #
LarJgrip Loc: The Fraser Valley
 
slocumeddie wrote:
Your pride and arrogance will be your downfall.....


…he said to his reflection in the mirror.

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Oct 29, 2015 11:08:38   #
James Shaw
 
Racmanaz wrote:
"According to Lyle's principal the best explanation is the one that invokes a cause which we know from our experience which can produce the effect we are trying to explain."- Stephen Meyer.

"There is only one known cause for information, that is Intelligence"- Stephen Meyer

This kind of response is exactly what one should expect from a lonely person that has never had any ideas of his own and accepts the fantasies of others to get attention.

To continue to repeat the same post over and over again must be a syndrome. Pathetic.

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Oct 29, 2015 14:46:10   #
James Shaw
 
mwalsh wrote:
Joust on good fellows.

Windmills abound on both sides !!

Your fake attempt at even-temperament is jousting in the background. Joust on as you will.

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