I would almost bet that even if he did get it back together, it would skip every time it hit the crack.
It is extremely difficult to repair your friends record but it can be done.
As soon as possible, record the sound. It nay be the only thing left to do.
Experiment first!!!
Before repairing it, find out if the record is valuable for the sound, for the record itself, and if only one side is of importance.
If the record itself is of major importance, you'll have to fix it very carefully.
If the sound only, good luck! Any repair will still leave a scratch and over time the scratch will both mess up your needle and/or get larger until it shouldn't be used anymore.
Many old Edison records were only recorded on one side. Of course they also were about a 1/4 inch thick. LoL
If one side only is important then all needed is to glue another on the bacK side. So of like a splint. That will thicken the record but at least it still works.
First thing is to find a glue that will hold strong to the record.
Make sure you use a slow drying glue as this will take a few minutes. You don't want the glue to harden before finishing. Most plastic type glues have times to dry. From instant to overnight. Most hardware stores g Ave glues that harden from 30 sec to five minutes. You'll want five or longer if available.
Technique:
Make sure you have the proper glue.
A good magnifying glass. One that will hold itself so you have two hands free.
Several pins or toothpicks to apple the glue.
Rags to clean the pins and/or any mistakes.
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On a flat surface (table top) lay the record down. Set up the mag glass to see the broken edge. Apply glue carefully and thinly in the middle of the broken record only. Use the table to support your hand.
You do have to work semi fast but remember that too much glue or to close to the edge and it will mess up everything.
Remember, this is a one-time fix.
(That's why you should use another record several times to practice on.)
You might also want to put a plastic cover over the flat surface so any "leaks" won't stick to the table top. After done record the sound for listening to later and store the origional record. Most glues dry hard and will not take flexing.
The origional old-old Edison records used on Victrollas may not bend much and that will make the small amount of glue Crack very easy.
Good luck!!!
Billbobboy42 wrote:
I have a friend who broke cleanly in half a mint condition 78rpm record. Apparently, he has not been able to find a replacement. And he is not short of hair-brained tasks to tackle.
He asked me what would be the best glue to attempt a repair. What ever I could think of had apparent shortcomings re application. I surmised that a short setting time super type glue (that is quite liquid in viscosity) might be the best to try. The issue I see with this is whether he can apply the glue accurately across the record edge in sufficiently short time before it starts setting up. Also, no glue must ooze out onto the record groves. The only good news that I see is he is only concerned about playing one side. The record is used on an old Wurlitzer jukebox.
Any suggestions besides keeping a search on eBay for another copy?
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Depending on the type and thickness of the record, its most likely not fixable. If its a standard two sided 78 from the 30s or 40s, its probably not doable. As has been suggested you could glue it tigether but it would serve as a wall hanging only. The stylus would get stuck at the glue point twice in every revolution on both sides. While some groves might allow the stylus through with a loud thunk, many or most would stop the stylus dead the groove and possibly break it. Besides the glue creating a barrier, there will be small spaces between the two half's since you could never get tight enough pressure when bonding the two halves together. Tell him not to waste his time.
Loctite 349 very expensive but is worth every penny.We were fishing in a river one day in 12 ft john boat the rubber squeeze bubble had split, True 100% we had a bottle in a small tool box that I kept pliers s drivers tape and a bottle of 349 I laughed as my buddy glued the split in the bulb in ten minutes we were crusing to the ramp gasoline did not crompmise this glue. I used it at work for many unusal plastic rubber, I know for sure it will work problem it takes very little and dries fast will work if you take time and figure how to not apply to muck and get it only on center of broken sides.
sorry I meant middle not muck.
What song and by whom was it done?
Fla Walt wrote:
What song and by whom was it done?
"Forgive My Heart" by Nat King Cole. Capitol # 3234, 1955.
GENorkus wrote:
It is extremely difficult to repair your friends record but it can be done.
As soon as possible, record the sound. It nay be the only thing left to do.
Experiment first!!!
Before repairing it, find out if the record is valuable for the sound, for the record itself, and if only one side is of importance.
If the record itself is of major importance, you'll have to fix it very carefully.
If the sound only, good luck! Any repair will still leave a scratch and over time the scratch will both mess up your needle and/or get larger until it shouldn't be used anymore.
Many old Edison records were only recorded on one side. Of course they also were about a 1/4 inch thick. LoL
If one side only is important then all needed is to glue another on the bacK side. So of like a splint. That will thicken the record but at least it still works.
First thing is to find a glue that will hold strong to the record.
Make sure you use a slow drying glue as this will take a few minutes. You don't want the glue to harden before finishing. Most plastic type glues have times to dry. From instant to overnight. Most hardware stores g Ave glues that harden from 30 sec to five minutes. You'll want five or longer if available.
Technique:
Make sure you have the proper glue.
A good magnifying glass. One that will hold itself so you have two hands free.
Several pins or toothpicks to apple the glue.
Rags to clean the pins and/or any mistakes.
---
On a flat surface (table top) lay the record down. Set up the mag glass to see the broken edge. Apply glue carefully and thinly in the middle of the broken record only. Use the table to support your hand.
You do have to work semi fast but remember that too much glue or to close to the edge and it will mess up everything.
Remember, this is a one-time fix.
(That's why you should use another record several times to practice on.)
You might also want to put a plastic cover over the flat surface so any "leaks" won't stick to the table top. After done record the sound for listening to later and store the origional record. Most glues dry hard and will not take flexing.
The origional old-old Edison records used on Victrollas may not bend much and that will make the small amount of glue Crack very easy.
Good luck!!!
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Thanks for the thorough description. In this case, however, the "fixed" record must not have any measurable thickness added to it, since it must fit into the record tray stack where the fitment tolerance is close. The record is one of his set that is played on one of his antique Wurlitzer jukeboxes. Incidentally, some have posted that the needle could be damaged while passing over the seam. Not likely with an antique jukebox since the tonearm and needle were built like tanks. Originally, the tonearm tracking force was 4 ounces. Modern upgrades have reduced tracking force to about 30 grams, or 1 oz. By comparison, my Dual turntable can track a record (not 78) at 3/4 gram. As long as the groves are lined up and no glue in them on the playable side, the needle has a good chance of tracking. Having said that, there will be noise picked up as the needle passes over the crack. Question is whether the fix is good enough for him to tolerate the 156 "clicks" per minute.
Regards.
He has nearly all the music he wants on cds. The record is strictly for use on his Wurlitzer jukebox.
E6000 not for this. Very rubbery.
bluescreek wrote:
Try E6000, an industrial glue sold at Hobby Lobby.
If you achieve success you will be immortalized in the annals of glueology.
Please let us know how it works out. works out. works out...
Well there is a quick fix. Gorilla Tape. it's black so won't be to noticeable and holds better than Duct Tape.
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