Question for the Glue Experts
Sep 5, 2015 09:50:03 #
I have a friend who broke cleanly in half a mint condition 78rpm record. Apparently, he has not been able to find a replacement. And he is not short of hair-brained tasks to tackle.
He asked me what would be the best glue to attempt a repair. What ever I could think of had apparent shortcomings re application. I surmised that a short setting time super type glue (that is quite liquid in viscosity) might be the best to try. The issue I see with this is whether he can apply the glue accurately across the record edge in sufficiently short time before it starts setting up. Also, no glue must ooze out onto the record groves. The only good news that I see is he is only concerned about playing one side. The record is used on an old Wurlitzer jukebox.
Any suggestions besides keeping a search on eBay for another copy?
He asked me what would be the best glue to attempt a repair. What ever I could think of had apparent shortcomings re application. I surmised that a short setting time super type glue (that is quite liquid in viscosity) might be the best to try. The issue I see with this is whether he can apply the glue accurately across the record edge in sufficiently short time before it starts setting up. Also, no glue must ooze out onto the record groves. The only good news that I see is he is only concerned about playing one side. The record is used on an old Wurlitzer jukebox.
Any suggestions besides keeping a search on eBay for another copy?
Sep 5, 2015 09:55:14 #
Ronr2
Loc: Virginia
Nothing will work for that application as the glue will end up in the groves, if glued it would be only a wall hanger.
Sep 5, 2015 10:17:57 #
Ronr2 wrote:
I would have to agree.Nothing will work for that application as the glue will end up in the groves, if glued it would be only a wall hanger.
Sep 5, 2015 10:30:49 #
Even if it were perfectly glued there is still the problem of the stylus going over the break, it would skip a lot.
Sep 5, 2015 10:32:43 #
melismus
Loc: Chesapeake Bay Country
With nothing to lose, try this: lay the record good-side-down on a flat surface. With a good magnifier, press the halves together with best alignment you can see. Loctite makes an instant glue with brush applicator; brush on sparingly. Chances are, it will set before it soaks through to the good side. There will still be 156 loud clicks every minute.
PS the term is "hare-brained."
PS the term is "hare-brained."
Sep 5, 2015 10:37:17 #
dlmorris
Loc: Loma Linda, Ca
He could find some sort of backing plate (another record?) and glue it to that. I wouldn't be to optimistic, though, and you would always hear the crack, no matter how well you did it. Wonder if you could find the song on YouTube or somewhere, make a recording, then find someone who could cut another 78....
Sep 5, 2015 11:45:58 #
dlmorris wrote:
He could find some sort of backing plate (another record?) and glue it to that. I wouldn't be to optimistic, though, and you would always hear the crack, no matter how well you did it. Wonder if you could find the song on YouTube or somewhere, make a recording, then find someone who could cut another 78....
In this case, a backing plate would most likely not work due to the additional thickness which would impede the record sliding back into the record tray stack. It might work if the record were to be played on a turntable, but that's not how the record will be used. Thank's for the idea.
Sep 5, 2015 15:34:41 #
If it was me doing it , I would try plastic welding it .
I would try using a soldering iron, starting at one end and tack it together every cm . Do not let it get hot enough to effect the side you wish to play .
I would try using a soldering iron, starting at one end and tack it together every cm . Do not let it get hot enough to effect the side you wish to play .
Sep 5, 2015 18:40:14 #
dlmorris
Loc: Loma Linda, Ca
Go find another record or two, and experiment on them till you find something that works. That soldering idea might work. Another thing, I have some putty epoxy that is really strong. You could try some of that on the back side, but as someone else mentioned, I think you would always hear the crack, maybe even big time, plus the record would be prone to break there again.
Sep 5, 2015 18:40:14 #
dlmorris
Loc: Loma Linda, Ca
Go find another record or two, and experiment on them till you find something that works.
Sep 6, 2015 08:22:53 #
This might be of interest. I remembered seeing it on a website called thegrommet.com. Good luck.
https://www.thegrommet.com/bondic-liquid-plastic-welder-starter-kit
https://www.thegrommet.com/bondic-liquid-plastic-welder-starter-kit
Sep 6, 2015 08:40:39 #
I don't believe the soldering iron idea will work. These old disks were not vinyl or plastic like the 33s or 45s younger persons are more familiar with. Most vintage disc records were made from a shellac-based material.
Sep 6, 2015 09:07:57 #
KoniOmegaflex wrote:
This might be of interest. I remembered seeing it on a website called thegrommet.com. Good luck.
http://www.thegrommet.com/bondic-liquid-plastic-welder-starter-kit
http://www.thegrommet.com/bondic-liquid-plastic-welder-starter-kit
Sep 6, 2015 09:19:27 #
Sep 6, 2015 09:32:51 #
EoS_User wrote:
I don't believe the soldering iron idea will work. These old disks were not vinyl or plastic like the 33s or 45s younger persons are more familiar with. Most vintage disc records were made from a shellac-based material.
You are right about the material. I think the material is similar to Bakelite.
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