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Mar 21, 2012 14:10:42   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
lpurschke wrote:


Yes I just got a note from admin that my post was moved to the Photo Analysis thread. I was a little confused, so sorry everyone. Goofynewbie I am looking for the sync cord and witll try that. Its definitely a sync thing. I got the ol readers manual out so will read it from front to back... will keep you posted.. thank you...

I wasn't sure where it went either.

Using the pop-up flash on manual should work too.

And it's GoofyNewfie ( as in Newfoundland) I'm hardly a newbie if you check my profile. Let us know what you come up with.
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Bazinga??

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Mar 21, 2012 14:13:18   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
MT Shooter wrote:
GoofyNewfie wrote:
lpurschke wrote:


Yes I just got a note from admin that my post was moved to the Photo Analysis thread. I was a little confused, so sorry everyone. Goofynewbie I am looking for the sync cord and witll try that. Its definitely a sync thing. I got the ol readers manual out so will read it from front to back... will keep you posted.. thank you...

I wasn't sure where it went either.

Using the pop-up flash on manual should work too.

And it's GoofyNewfie ( as in Newfoundland) I'm hardly a newbie if you check my profile. Let us know what you come up with.
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Bazinga??
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Buddy, Good day eh?

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Mar 21, 2012 14:32:04   #
rambler Loc: Masssachusetts
 
Center-weighted metering works best when the subject is centered and there is bright light in the background.

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Mar 21, 2012 14:34:27   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
rambler wrote:
Center-weighted metering works best when the subject is centered and there is bright light in the background.


...and it doesn't work at all in this situation.

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Mar 21, 2012 14:34:48   #
jimmya Loc: Phoenix
 
lpurschke wrote:
ok I'm posting a picture of the setup and a pic I took I saw a tutorial on this and did it the same way and my photo is totally underexposed . How can she not be lighted when the two umbrellas are right in her face????? I was just practicing the setup so she's not made up at all Hopefully the pictures upload


From what I see in your second shot you've got the umbrellas facing the wrong way. The light is not supposed to have to travel through the umbrellas but be reflected off of them to the subject. There could be a sync problem but first turn those umbrellas around.

I did a career in television news / sports photography and never did I ever see umbrellas reversed like you have them in the second shot.

Good Luck

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Mar 21, 2012 14:36:47   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
jimmya wrote:
lpurschke wrote:
ok I'm posting a picture of the setup and a pic I took I saw a tutorial on this and did it the same way and my photo is totally underexposed . How can she not be lighted when the two umbrellas are right in her face????? I was just practicing the setup so she's not made up at all Hopefully the pictures upload


From what I see in your second shot you've got the umbrellas facing the wrong way. The light is not supposed to have to travel through the umbrellas but be reflected off of them to the subject. There could be a sync problem but first turn those umbrellas around.

I did a career in television news / sports photography and never did I ever see umbrellas reversed like you have them in the second shot.

Good Luck
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Is use them all the time that way. Almost as good as a softbox. They are called "shoot-through" you can get them closer to the subject and get even softer lighting.

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Mar 21, 2012 14:36:53   #
coco1964 Loc: Winsted Mn
 
Since you say you seen the strobes flash then the only thing that could have happened is that the camera was not synchronized with the strobes. It may just be me but do you really need this many strobes (I believed you said 3 or 4, lost track)to take this shot?? Seems like you're having a hard time getting all in sync............

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Mar 21, 2012 14:57:04   #
jimmya Loc: Phoenix
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
jimmya wrote:
lpurschke wrote:
ok I'm posting a picture of the setup and a pic I took I saw a tutorial on this and did it the same way and my photo is totally underexposed . How can she not be lighted when the two umbrellas are right in her face????? I was just practicing the setup so she's not made up at all Hopefully the pictures upload


From what I see in your second shot you've got the umbrellas facing the wrong way. The light is not supposed to have to travel through the umbrellas but be reflected off of them to the subject. There could be a sync problem but first turn those umbrellas around.

I did a career in television news / sports photography and never did I ever see umbrellas reversed like you have them in the second shot.

Good Luck
quote=lpurschke ok I'm posting a picture of the s... (show quote)


Is use them all the time that way. Almost as good as a softbox. They are called "shoot-through" you can get them closer to the subject and get even softer lighting.
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Hmmmmm, okay. Well sorry about the wrong advice then.
I've never used "shoot through" but then I've been retired for a while. Good Luck

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Mar 21, 2012 15:02:08   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
jimmya wrote:


Hmmmmm, okay. Well sorry about the wrong advice then.
I've never used "shoot through" but then I've been retired for a while. Good Luck


Looked weird to me too when it first saw them used that way. Things change so fast these days. Hard to keep up.
Sites like this can be helpful - if you can find the right answers. I've been in the biz for over 30 years and have learned several useful things here.

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Mar 21, 2012 15:06:01   #
melphoto60
 
lpurschke wrote:
ok I'm posting a picture of the setup and a pic I took I saw a tutorial on this and did it the same way and my photo is totally underexposed . How can she not be lighted when the two umbrellas are right in her face????? I was just practicing the setup so she's not made up at all Hopefully the pictures upload


at what shutter speed were you trying I dont know about nikons but canons sync at 1/250 or lower for small flashes but at a lower sync speed for studio strobes 1/125 or lower check camera manual. If all else fails try using various shutter speeds from 1/250 to 1/60 to see when strobes are fireing...

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Mar 21, 2012 20:33:17   #
RayT Loc: Crestwood KY
 
lpurschke wrote:
yes they fired Ok maybe someone can figure it out I had my sb900 firing the other flashes. Mybe I should try the wireless transmitter again (it wasn't working the other day) thanks !


Your sb900 emits a "pre" flash that is so short that it is undetectable to the human eye (at least mine) but your studio lights saw it and fired BEFORE your lens could open.

Either let the studio lights slave the other units or set your on camera flash to manual.

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Mar 21, 2012 21:18:20   #
vallabh1
 
lpurschke wrote:
ok I'm posting a picture of the setup and a pic I took I saw a tutorial on this and did it the same way and my photo is totally underexposed . How can she not be lighted when the two umbrellas are right in her face????? I was just practicing the setup so she's not made up at all Hopefully the pictures upload


The Umbrellas seemed facing away from subject and your sync is off and matching the shutter. What is the sync for the camera like the Shutter needs to be above 60th to 250th? What camera are using and is the camera linked directly to the lights or are using a remote on the camera. Direct cord will fire the lights and if the strobes might be off or not in sync?
Please reply or you call me if you want I can provide my number later. Lot easier to trouble shoot on the phone live.

Thanks.

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Mar 22, 2012 00:43:35   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
vallabh1 wrote:
lpurschke wrote:
ok I'm posting a picture of the setup and a pic I took I saw a tutorial on this and did it the same way and my photo is totally underexposed . How can she not be lighted when the two umbrellas are right in her face????? I was just practicing the setup so she's not made up at all Hopefully the pictures upload


The Umbrellas seemed facing away from subject and your sync is off and matching the shutter. What is the sync for the camera like the Shutter needs to be above 60th to 250th? What camera are using and is the camera linked directly to the lights or are using a remote on the camera. Direct cord will fire the lights and if the strobes might be off or not in sync?
Please reply or you call me if you want I can provide my number later. Lot easier to trouble shoot on the phone live.

Thanks.
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Never heard of "shoot-through" umbrellas have you?

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Mar 22, 2012 00:51:33   #
vallabh1
 
There are shoot through ones but the one in picture are not shoot through. It need to be reflected back, with photoflex unit they have shoot through with reflective material on the inside.

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Mar 22, 2012 01:15:32   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
vallabh1 wrote:
There are shoot through ones but the one in picture are not shoot through. It need to be reflected back, with photoflex unit they have shoot through with reflective material on the inside.


I went to bed and came back to check that possibility.
The shoot through umbrellas I use have a removable black backing on them. You're right- these do look a bit different.
But they don't look to be opaque.
She should still get some light from them, don't 'cha think?
At least more than what she got. Too many unknowns. Strobe power, shutter speed.
I'm thinking it has to be a sync problem and from there, strobe power to get it right. I tried this at work with the pop-up flash (on manual) -everything: monolights and the SB 800 fired every time. So did the radio sync- I have a Calumet unit that looks like an RPS she may be using. Shutter speeds higher than 200th did cause a problem and anything slower would work fine.

Wish the OP would chime in again.
Ok- now I'm going to bed.
Goodnight!

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