Center-weighted metering works best when the subject is centered and there is bright light in the background.
rambler wrote:
Center-weighted metering works best when the subject is centered and there is bright light in the background.
...and it doesn't work at all in this situation.
lpurschke wrote:
ok I'm posting a picture of the setup and a pic I took I saw a tutorial on this and did it the same way and my photo is totally underexposed . How can she not be lighted when the two umbrellas are right in her face????? I was just practicing the setup so she's not made up at all Hopefully the pictures upload
From what I see in your second shot you've got the umbrellas facing the wrong way. The light is not supposed to have to travel through the umbrellas but be reflected off of them to the subject. There could be a sync problem but first turn those umbrellas around.
I did a career in television news / sports photography and never did I ever see umbrellas reversed like you have them in the second shot.
Good Luck
jimmya wrote:
lpurschke wrote:
ok I'm posting a picture of the setup and a pic I took I saw a tutorial on this and did it the same way and my photo is totally underexposed . How can she not be lighted when the two umbrellas are right in her face????? I was just practicing the setup so she's not made up at all Hopefully the pictures upload
From what I see in your second shot you've got the umbrellas facing the wrong way. The light is not supposed to have to travel through the umbrellas but be reflected off of them to the subject. There could be a sync problem but first turn those umbrellas around.
I did a career in television news / sports photography and never did I ever see umbrellas reversed like you have them in the second shot.
Good Luck
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Is use them all the time that way. Almost as good as a softbox. They are called "shoot-through" you can get them closer to the subject and get even softer lighting.
Since you say you seen the strobes flash then the only thing that could have happened is that the camera was not synchronized with the strobes. It may just be me but do you really need this many strobes (I believed you said 3 or 4, lost track)to take this shot?? Seems like you're having a hard time getting all in sync............
GoofyNewfie wrote:
jimmya wrote:
lpurschke wrote:
ok I'm posting a picture of the setup and a pic I took I saw a tutorial on this and did it the same way and my photo is totally underexposed . How can she not be lighted when the two umbrellas are right in her face????? I was just practicing the setup so she's not made up at all Hopefully the pictures upload
From what I see in your second shot you've got the umbrellas facing the wrong way. The light is not supposed to have to travel through the umbrellas but be reflected off of them to the subject. There could be a sync problem but first turn those umbrellas around.
I did a career in television news / sports photography and never did I ever see umbrellas reversed like you have them in the second shot.
Good Luck
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Is use them all the time that way. Almost as good as a softbox. They are called "shoot-through" you can get them closer to the subject and get even softer lighting.
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Hmmmmm, okay. Well sorry about the wrong advice then.
I've never used "shoot through" but then I've been retired for a while. Good Luck
jimmya wrote:
Hmmmmm, okay. Well sorry about the wrong advice then.
I've never used "shoot through" but then I've been retired for a while. Good Luck
Looked weird to me too when it first saw them used that way. Things change so fast these days. Hard to keep up.
Sites like this can be helpful - if you can find the right answers. I've been in the biz for over 30 years and have learned several useful things here.
lpurschke wrote:
ok I'm posting a picture of the setup and a pic I took I saw a tutorial on this and did it the same way and my photo is totally underexposed . How can she not be lighted when the two umbrellas are right in her face????? I was just practicing the setup so she's not made up at all Hopefully the pictures upload
at what shutter speed were you trying I dont know about nikons but canons sync at 1/250 or lower for small flashes but at a lower sync speed for studio strobes 1/125 or lower check camera manual. If all else fails try using various shutter speeds from 1/250 to 1/60 to see when strobes are fireing...
lpurschke wrote:
yes they fired Ok maybe someone can figure it out I had my sb900 firing the other flashes. Mybe I should try the wireless transmitter again (it wasn't working the other day) thanks !
Your sb900 emits a "pre" flash that is so short that it is undetectable to the human eye (at least mine) but your studio lights saw it and fired BEFORE your lens could open.
Either let the studio lights slave the other units or set your on camera flash to manual.
lpurschke wrote:
ok I'm posting a picture of the setup and a pic I took I saw a tutorial on this and did it the same way and my photo is totally underexposed . How can she not be lighted when the two umbrellas are right in her face????? I was just practicing the setup so she's not made up at all Hopefully the pictures upload
The Umbrellas seemed facing away from subject and your sync is off and matching the shutter. What is the sync for the camera like the Shutter needs to be above 60th to 250th? What camera are using and is the camera linked directly to the lights or are using a remote on the camera. Direct cord will fire the lights and if the strobes might be off or not in sync?
Please reply or you call me if you want I can provide my number later. Lot easier to trouble shoot on the phone live.
Thanks.
vallabh1 wrote:
lpurschke wrote:
ok I'm posting a picture of the setup and a pic I took I saw a tutorial on this and did it the same way and my photo is totally underexposed . How can she not be lighted when the two umbrellas are right in her face????? I was just practicing the setup so she's not made up at all Hopefully the pictures upload
The Umbrellas seemed facing away from subject and your sync is off and matching the shutter. What is the sync for the camera like the Shutter needs to be above 60th to 250th? What camera are using and is the camera linked directly to the lights or are using a remote on the camera. Direct cord will fire the lights and if the strobes might be off or not in sync?
Please reply or you call me if you want I can provide my number later. Lot easier to trouble shoot on the phone live.
Thanks.
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Never heard of "shoot-through" umbrellas have you?
There are shoot through ones but the one in picture are not shoot through. It need to be reflected back, with photoflex unit they have shoot through with reflective material on the inside.
vallabh1 wrote:
There are shoot through ones but the one in picture are not shoot through. It need to be reflected back, with photoflex unit they have shoot through with reflective material on the inside.
I went to bed and came back to check that possibility.
The shoot through umbrellas I use have a removable black backing on them. You're right- these do look a bit different.
But they don't look to be opaque.
She should still get some light from them, don't 'cha think?
At least more than what she got. Too many unknowns. Strobe power, shutter speed.
I'm thinking it has to be a sync problem and from there, strobe power to get it right. I tried this at work with the pop-up flash (on manual) -everything: monolights and the SB 800 fired every time. So did the radio sync- I have a Calumet unit that looks like an RPS she may be using. Shutter speeds higher than 200th did cause a problem and anything slower would work fine.
Wish the OP would chime in again.
Ok- now I'm going to bed.
Goodnight!
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