Is the F-35 as bad as some claim?
Feb 23, 2015 07:26:58 #
richosob wrote:
I have no expertise when it comes to the F-35 vs F-22 Raptor but I can't believe this country would put highly trained pilots in planes that are inferior to Russian aircraft. That is like knowingly sending them to their deaths. It just doesn't seem possible.
Rich
Rich
I sympathise with how you feel, but military history is full of stories of the USA, and many other countries, getting into wars with inferior fighter aircraft. WW2 is a prime example, Japanese Zero's and the German Messerschmitt F109 were superior to anything we had when we entered the war. Later, it was a very different story. :-(
Feb 23, 2015 07:37:51 #
chienfou wrote:
Every time I turn around I read an article or see a video puting down the F-35, a plane that all the branches of the military are counting on to be their bread and butter for the next generation. If it's not as good as they say why is Israel buying so many of them. Israel is the last country I would expect to be buying worthless military gear.
http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Israel-signs-contract-to-purchase-additional-14-F-35-fighter-jets-391789
http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Israel-signs-contract-to-purchase-additional-14-F-35-fighter-jets-391789
Isn't that the plane that won't be able to fire its guns for several years? As for why Israel is buying them, who knows? We learn about 1% of what goes on behind closed doors.
Feb 23, 2015 09:11:30 #
Thanks to all those who gave me their opinions on the F-35. I couldn't respond yesterday individually because my internet was very slow(first time in two years, can't really complain)
Having read all the comments I'm still on the fence on this aircraft. I guess we won't know for sure until it's fully deployed. I just don't see us getting a lemon after such stealth success as the F-17, B-2 and the F-22. My concern is if the F-35 turns out to be lemon than we would be in serious trouble since the F-22 is no longer in production.
Having read all the comments I'm still on the fence on this aircraft. I guess we won't know for sure until it's fully deployed. I just don't see us getting a lemon after such stealth success as the F-17, B-2 and the F-22. My concern is if the F-35 turns out to be lemon than we would be in serious trouble since the F-22 is no longer in production.
Feb 23, 2015 09:12:54 #
chienfou wrote:
Thanks to all those who gave me their opinions on ... (show quote)
Nothing to be concerned about at all.
Feb 23, 2015 09:40:41 #
Does anyone here remember the FB-111? It was essentially the same idea as the F-35--one plane to do everything (love the FB designation) and designed from the start for both the navy and the air force. It didn't work very well. The navy never took any of them. The air force bought a few as bombers. Whenever I see anything on the F-35 it sounds like the same deal -- very advanced in some ways but too many compromises. Of course times change, technology advances, etc., but I suspect that the concept itself is mistaken.
Feb 23, 2015 09:52:39 #
The F35 is currently being deployed to active units. It was planned and designed to bring commonality to nato forces. What it does it does really well, but is not the fighter the F22 is.
The excuse for killing the F22 was that it was so advanced we didn't need it. Now the Russians are in early testing of a virtual carbon copy, and China will have one flying in under 3 years.
The stupidest reason ever for cancelling a plane.
The excuse for killing the F22 was that it was so advanced we didn't need it. Now the Russians are in early testing of a virtual carbon copy, and China will have one flying in under 3 years.
The stupidest reason ever for cancelling a plane.
Feb 23, 2015 09:55:44 #
picturesofdogs wrote:
The F35 is currently being deployed to active units. It was planned and designed to bring commonality to nato forces. What it does it does really well, but is not the fighter the F22 is.
The excuse for killing the F22 was that it was so advanced we didn't need it. Now the Russians are in early testing of a virtual carbon copy, and China will have one flying in under 3 years.
The stupidest reason ever for cancelling a plane.
The excuse for killing the F22 was that it was so advanced we didn't need it. Now the Russians are in early testing of a virtual carbon copy, and China will have one flying in under 3 years.
The stupidest reason ever for cancelling a plane.
The driving force behind everything is - - - $$$
Feb 23, 2015 10:03:49 #
Yes, and the fewer you make of something, the more each one costs.
Feb 23, 2015 10:04:42 #
AZ Dog
Loc: Peoria, AZ
If any of you are aeronautical engineers, you can address this issue. Otherwise, do not talk about something you know nothing about. I live 10 minutes from Luke AFB, where the pilots will be trained. They do take the training seriously.
Feb 23, 2015 10:07:37 #
I work for the company that makes both. How bout serving yourself that big cup of shut the he'll up.
Feb 23, 2015 10:11:16 #
ole sarg
Loc: south florida
Why Robert you ole anti Semite. Like to hear from you it only reinforces our perception of your worthlessness! Keep up the good work!
BTW the sheet you bought is really off white!
BTW the sheet you bought is really off white!
Robert Graybeal wrote:
The Jews are buying them 'cause they are only $1.00 each.
that should get somebody fired up.
that should get somebody fired up.
Feb 23, 2015 10:13:06 #
ole sarg
Loc: south florida
Frenchy missed you at the cross burning!
Ya know a bigot is hard to find nowadays. I'll bet you are a hit on the party circuit....
Ya know a bigot is hard to find nowadays. I'll bet you are a hit on the party circuit....
FRENCHY wrote:
And with good reasons !!! :thumbup: :thumbup:
Feb 23, 2015 10:14:47 #
ole sarg
Loc: south florida
Ahh, the old I have friends. I doubt they would continue being your friends if they read your comments.
MontanaTrace wrote:
I have friends that are Jews. They will be pleased to learn they can get one for a buck.
Feb 23, 2015 10:35:24 #
rpavich wrote:
I'd like to know the source of your claims here...this isn't even close to the truth.
What are the capabilities of the F-35?
What is the Russian fighter that you are comparing it to?
What are the capabilities of that Russian fighter?
I've been involved in building and designing military aircraft all of my adult life and it just seems to me that this isn't grounded in reality.
What are the capabilities of the F-35?
What is the Russian fighter that you are comparing it to?
What are the capabilities of that Russian fighter?
I've been involved in building and designing military aircraft all of my adult life and it just seems to me that this isn't grounded in reality.
Although I am no an aeronautical engineer nor have I designed air frames, but I do know that an air craft like the JSF that was designed to do everything for all branches of the military, simply can't. Each branch has specific needs and a one size fits all sounds good but just won't work as well as fighters that are designed foe the specific branches. The "warthog" is a great example of a plane designed foe close air support. The F35 cannot do that job.
Feb 23, 2015 10:47:33 #
AZ Dog
Loc: Peoria, AZ
Did any of you "experts" know that there is an Air Force version and a Navy/Marine Corps version?
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