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Feb 6, 2015 12:39:22   #
chapjohn Loc: Tigard, Oregon
 
Yesterday I was shooting at a local aquarium. I have my DSLR, 35mm lens with rubber hood, CPL, flash gun and soft-box. There is a lady with a long lens on her DSLR with a hard hood and no filters. She seems to be having issues with getting the shots she wants and looking at me with what seems to be a snarly angry facial gestures. I was there with another gentleman from my camera club helping him get shots with suggetions. The question is should I have said something to her at the risk of being told to mind my own business?

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Feb 6, 2015 12:44:09   #
Dan L Loc: Wisconsin
 
Doesn't hurt to ask does it? In a nice friendly manner and might make a new friend.

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Feb 6, 2015 12:51:15   #
tsilva Loc: Arizona
 
You can always do the "hi, getting some nice shots?" approach and then let instigate further conversation

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Feb 6, 2015 12:51:52   #
jsharp Loc: Ballwin MO.
 
What was the brand on her camera strap? LOL

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Feb 6, 2015 12:55:17   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
when I worked as a professional trainer, I'd see people in the club doing exercises wrong all the time. I only approached the ones I felt were new to working out. Once I saw a lady showing someone else how to do squats wrong. I didn't approach her because she thought she knew what she was doing. Later I found out she was a trainer somewhere else. I'm glad I didn't say anything.

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Feb 6, 2015 12:57:56   #
Old Timer Loc: Greenfield, In.
 
Unsolicited advice is usually unwanted advice. You can could have ask if you could do any thing to help or offered and went from there.


chapjohn wrote:
Yesterday I was shooting at a local aquarium. I have my DSLR, 35mm lens with rubber hood, CPL, flash gun and soft-box. There is a lady with a long lens on her DSLR with a hard hood and no filters. She seems to be having issues with getting the shots she wants and looking at me with what seems to be a snarly angry facial gestures. I was there with another gentleman from my camera club helping him get shots with suggetions. The question is should I have said something to her at the risk of being told to mind my own business?
Yesterday I was shooting at a local aquarium. I h... (show quote)

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Feb 6, 2015 13:00:12   #
JPL
 
You could have said to her. "Hi, I see your just getting crappy shots, let me show you how to do this" But I guess that would not have been a nice approach. I think tsilva suggested the right approach, it is an indirect way of offering assistance that sensible people would accept.

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Feb 6, 2015 13:02:37   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
chapjohn wrote:
...There is a lady with a long lens on her DSLR with a hard hood and no filters. She seems to be having issues with getting the shots she wants and looking at me with what seems to be a snarly angry facial gestures. I...The question is should I have said something to her at the risk of being told to mind my own business?


when you see a strange lady using a long lens in an inappropriate manner it is wise to keep your distance; they often have gender identification issues.

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Feb 6, 2015 13:14:48   #
Mr. B Loc: eastern Connecticut
 
Asking if you might make a suggestion is a friendly gesture. Just go into it mindful that no good deed goes unpunished and you'll be fine. :D

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Feb 6, 2015 13:25:47   #
G Brown Loc: Sunny Bognor Regis West Sussex UK
 
I accept advice wherever I am - whether I heed it or not I nod politely and say thank you.

That's the thing about advice - You can never get too much.

I give advice too - on entirely the same basis. If it helps great and if it doesn't ignore it.

You should never be afraid to offer help or advice. You have probably had a great deal of both.

Like kisses - its better shared.....

Have fun

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Feb 6, 2015 13:28:33   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
chapjohn wrote:
Yesterday I was shooting at a local aquarium. I have my DSLR, 35mm lens with rubber hood, CPL, flash gun and soft-box. There is a lady with a long lens on her DSLR with a hard hood and no filters. She seems to be having issues with getting the shots she wants and looking at me with what seems to be a snarly angry facial gestures. I was there with another gentleman from my camera club helping him get shots with suggetions. The question is should I have said something to her at the risk of being told to mind my own business?
Yesterday I was shooting at a local aquarium. I h... (show quote)


http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-281980-1.html

Seems very much related :)

The answer seems to be , you can make yourself available and then they may ask you but generally offering advice seems to be taken as an insult and you will get an angry reaction. Can I help you seems to translate to. you look like an idiot who doesn't know what they are doing.

The dirty looks might have been from her hearing you tell the other fella how to take the shot's. Probably thinking you were doing it for her benefit, along with frustration at not being able to get the shots she wanted.

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Feb 6, 2015 14:04:55   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
chapjohn wrote:
Yesterday I was shooting at a local aquarium. I have my DSLR, 35mm lens with rubber hood, CPL, flash gun and soft-box. There is a lady with a long lens on her DSLR with a hard hood and no filters. She seems to be having issues with getting the shots she wants and looking at me with what seems to be a snarly angry facial gestures. I was there with another gentleman from my camera club helping him get shots with suggetions. The question is should I have said something to her at the risk of being told to mind my own business?
Yesterday I was shooting at a local aquarium. I h... (show quote)


I find it difficult enough minding my own business, let alone someone else's. I'm always glad to try and offer advice if I can, but only when asked. My nose is flat enough as it is!

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Feb 6, 2015 14:07:19   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
blackest wrote:
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-281980-1.html

Seems very much related :)


I was looking for that. In particular this post from bkyser:
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/tpr?p=4753429

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Feb 6, 2015 14:12:37   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
chapjohn wrote:
Yesterday I was shooting at a local aquarium. I have my DSLR, 35mm lens with rubber hood, CPL, flash gun and soft-box. There is a lady with a long lens on her DSLR with a hard hood and no filters. She seems to be having issues with getting the shots she wants and looking at me with what seems to be a snarly angry facial gestures. I was there with another gentleman from my camera club helping him get shots with suggetions. The question is should I have said something to her at the risk of being told to mind my own business?
Yesterday I was shooting at a local aquarium. I h... (show quote)


Chap, if I cried every time I was told to "butt out" I would have drowned in my own tears as a toddler!! :lol:
Chap, if you saw someone fall and break their leg, would you just walk away and then come on here and ask if you should have helped because you may have been told to mind your own business ??
Either way, coulda, woulda, shouda, to late now! :lol:
SS

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Feb 6, 2015 14:17:50   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
"Hi, would you like to try my Lens hood?"

If she snarls, let it go.
If she seems interested, make a friend.

Being friendly never hurts. It opens the opportunity for dialect, or to walk away on her part.
But you tried.

Maybe she was getting GAS and was miffed at herself as needing to spend yet a bit more. ?

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