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Jan 12, 2015 07:25:22   #
AZNikon Loc: Mesa, AZ
 
Dngallagher wrote:

I found video tutorials did much to improve my use of Lightroom and Photoshop. A good place to start is Adobe TV - http://tv.adobe.com/


I agree. Start by making Julieanne Kost your new best friend. It took me a while to get my mind around Lightroom but once I "got it", I wouldn't be without it. Great program! And later you can add Photoshop Elements to your repertoire as it works well with Lightroom and is totally compatible. RAW rules!

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Jan 12, 2015 07:27:23   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
printer273 wrote:
I would like to start shooting in RAW and am looking for a quick straight forward tutorial or class to learn lightroom or whatever software to process the photos. Something for a beginner in this process. Any suggestions?


Anthony Morganti has a good free tutorial on his website... its about 43 sections long now but very good and free. He is trying to sell his presets though.

http://www.anthonymorganti.com/

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Jan 12, 2015 07:33:12   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
The only difference is processing a raw file relative to jpg is that your software must have information specific for the camera used. Unless you bought a newly introduced camera, having the camera profile should not be a problem.

Aside from this, processing a raw or jpg is identical although raw's will ultimately give a better result. Do not be put off by raw's. Many people think raw's have some secret juice making them hard to work with. Not true.

LR is an excellent choice. I am not a fan of Adobe but LR is certainly the software to use. Bear in mind that you may likely need more than thirty days to get comfortable with it. However, in the long run, you will probably be glad you learned it. A great starting place is Julieanne Kost on Adobe TV.

Good luck and do not be shy about asking for help here.

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Jan 12, 2015 08:59:53   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
Dngallagher wrote:
Millions or possibly even zillions of tutorials for Lightroom and Photoshop are available for free to watch on the internet, and re-watched again and again if needed.

I found video tutorials did much to improve my use of Lightroom and Photoshop.

A good place to start is Adobe TV - http://tv.adobe.com/

Or YOU TUBE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi1-8qYHWaQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF2RMd3L83w

Tons of tutorials for the cost of your time to search and watch.
Millions or possibly even zillions of tutorials fo... (show quote)


I found one particular set by Anthony Morganti on Lightroom. They are numbered and he keeps them short, with each one a specific function.

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Jan 12, 2015 09:57:37   #
pecohen Loc: Central Maine
 
msghael wrote:
RAW requires a post processing software.
Lightroom is one of the easiest to learn and organising your pics is a bonus. Beats PSE

I recently downloaded a trial of Lightroom and spent a couple days working with it. In the end, I found I still preferred the results I was getting with Raw Therapee. LR has some nice features though and perhaps a couple days was not enough.

The trial of CC only lasts a month though and I'll probably devote that to Premier Pro; it clearly gives me capabilities that I don't get from Video Studio though I do find it harder to use.

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Jan 12, 2015 10:14:57   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
I found that Nat Colson's books on lightroom are excellent and taught me easily how to use it. It is available from Amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1118645219/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1118645219&linkCode=as2&tag=phbe1bl-20&linkId=CRSSJY7LAWO6CPSZ Lightroom 5: Streamlining Your Digital Photography Process

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Jan 12, 2015 10:23:00   #
James R. Kyle Loc: Saint Louis, Missouri (A Suburb of Ferguson)
 
Gene51 wrote:
Canon DPP is free, and Lightroom, a better choice for all the things it does besides adjusting the image is free for 30 days. It comes bundled with Photoshop to make a complete package for just about anything you can envision doing to a photo. After the initial trial you can have the bundle for $10/mo and it will always be up to date.

Keep in mind that raw processors are parametric (the apply global rules) and rarely produce a perfectly finished image. But they do a great job at optimizing a file for additional processing in Photoshop (a pixel-level editor) or any other pixel editor for complete print-ready photos.

There are 1000s of tutorials from the very basic to advanced online. Many are free.
Canon DPP is free, and Lightroom, a better choice ... (show quote)

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YEP!

Great advice from an outstanding photographer.

:-)

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Jan 12, 2015 10:29:04   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
AzPicLady wrote:
I'm going to suggest rather than taking a class that you do the following: Pick any image and make every change possible. Write down the corrections that worked. Then, make those your "set" of developmental corrections to be applied automatically. Makes for a LOT less work and worry.


What program are you suggesting be used? Certainly not Photoshop CS6 or CC. Try "every change possible", the Universe is not that old yet!

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Jan 12, 2015 10:36:41   #
pecohen Loc: Central Maine
 
abc1234 wrote:
The only difference is processing a raw file relative to jpg is that your software must have information specific for the camera used. ...

There are some other differences to watch out for and the first is that your editing software must be able to read the RAW image; but if not then you will surely notice in short order. Less obvious is that your editing SW may assume that there are only eight bits of data for each color. Many older editors made this assumption and using one of them will sacrifice most if not all advantage there would be in using RAW.

Corel claims that all of their processing is now done with 32- or 64-bit floating point and that is probably true; however, I have reason to suspect that the 8-bit color plane is still lurking in some of their algorithms. The most serious concern I have is with the use of adjustment curves, but I've noticed that CMYK tiff files seem to truncate to eight bits as well. I don't doubt that these problems will be corrected in time since I have reported them to Corel.

I can't comment on Photoshop or Lightroom, but if these were derived from earlier versions that made the 8-bit assumption then it is possible that assumption is still lurking in some corner or another.

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Jan 12, 2015 13:14:44   #
ceallachain Loc: Cape May, NJ
 
Neither you or any of the others suggested using PS ELEMENTS. Is there a reason why this SW was not suggested??

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Jan 12, 2015 13:41:51   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
ceallachain wrote:
Neither you or any of the others suggested using PS ELEMENTS. Is there a reason why this SW was not suggested??


Mainly because the OP asked about Lightroom..

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Jan 12, 2015 14:01:26   #
pecohen Loc: Central Maine
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
Mainly because the OP asked about Lightroom..

Also, I think most of us try to limit what we say to things that are familiar to us. I'm not sure whether I've ever used PS Elements and if I did it was briefly and many years ago.

I try not to talk about things I know nothing about.

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Jan 12, 2015 14:54:34   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
lamiaceae wrote:
What program are you suggesting be used? Certainly not Photoshop CS6 or CC. Try "every change possible", the Universe is not that old yet!


This is how I learned LR. The hardest part was learning to maneuver from one segment to another. And sometimes the screen would get "wrong" somehow and I wouldn't know how to get it back to what I wanted. Other than that, it was a matter of playing.

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Jan 12, 2015 16:22:49   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
ceallachain wrote:
Neither you or any of the others suggested using PS ELEMENTS. Is there a reason why this SW was not suggested??


No reason to not mention it. Elements comes with Adobe Camera RAW (ACR): the same tool you use for RAW images in Photoshop CS6 or CC. ACR has most of the same editing features you find in Lightroom.

Elements has a separate Organizer program to perform the cataloging functions that Lightroom does with its Library.

Elements includes a separate Editor program that provides much of the editing functionality of Photoshop including layers. But the Editor does not work directly on RAW images so you have to save what you do there as an alternative file type.

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Jan 12, 2015 18:27:21   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
pecohen wrote:
There are some other differences to watch out for and the first is that your editing software must be able to read the RAW image; but if not then you will surely notice in short order. Less obvious is that your editing SW may assume that there are only eight bits of data for each color. Many older editors made this assumption and using one of them will sacrifice most if not all advantage there would be in using RAW.

Corel claims that all of their processing is now done with 32- or 64-bit floating point and that is probably true; however, I have reason to suspect that the 8-bit color plane is still lurking in some of their algorithms. The most serious concern I have is with the use of adjustment curves, but I've noticed that CMYK tiff files seem to truncate to eight bits as well. I don't doubt that these problems will be corrected in time since I have reported them to Corel.

I can't comment on Photoshop or Lightroom, but if these were derived from earlier versions that made the 8-bit assumption then it is possible that assumption is still lurking in some corner or another.
There are some other differences to watch out for ... (show quote)


Good insights. I am only referring to the operational aspect. That is, for adjusting brightness, contrast, cropping, saturation, local adjustments, etc. CorelDraw is my go-to program for vector graphics while LR and PS are my choices for photography.

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