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Nov 7, 2014 07:37:12   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Notice you are on the west coast. Are you located on a fault line? :wink:

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Nov 7, 2014 08:02:00   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
A heavy pro tripod. Downside expensive. Sandbags
like movie companies use. I believe some lens want
the VR turned off when on tripod. Not sure.
Good luck.

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Nov 7, 2014 08:09:04   #
Phg Loc: Canada
 
Great post! I've had similar problems with tripods and long exposures! While it was not on a deck it's my opinion that even light winds can cause similar problems. I was at a point whre I was wondeiring if perhaps I needed a camera upgrade. I use a light weight tripod. I did find that, as someone has mentioned, if I use the tripod without the bottom legs extended, I would get better results. I've concluded that if I need that extra extension a heavier tripod maybe required. Good luck with your photographs!

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Nov 7, 2014 08:15:45   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
davidrb wrote:
Interesting situation. This is a case where the tripod was not the cause of the vibration, just a continuation of it. I can understand the deck bouncing, but how did the truck adversely effect your shot? Does the ground in your area move that much just for vehicular traffic?


Trucks do cause vibrations. I feel it in my house on occasion when the garbage truck comes to collect. House is on a deep stone foundation too so not lightweight construction.

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Nov 7, 2014 08:18:23   #
Ladywendy Loc: Georgia
 
I set up on the ground below my deck and set the tripod as low to the ground as possible to avoid the vibrations and get some fantastic photographs of the night sky. The low tripod setting further reduces the slight vibrations caused by the wind.

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Nov 7, 2014 08:24:46   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
We can appreciate now what film makers and video guys (me now sometimes) go through with vibrations, winds, situations
to bring back clean, sharp footage. Video pro tripods are heavy.
I have a budget one and it is just OK. Good luck with your work.

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Nov 7, 2014 09:26:15   #
chaprick
 
Can you move just inside the door that leads out to the deck and therefore have a bit more stable foundation?? I realize that may not be facing the direction of the view you are trying to capture. Just another idea.

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Nov 7, 2014 09:50:39   #
Zone-System-Grandpa Loc: Springfield, Ohio
 
Morning Star wrote:
Oh yes, I can even sit still for much longer than that ;-)
However, just as I pressed the shutter button, the coffeepot in the kitchen was beeping to tell me it was finished making my coffee, so I walked away from the camera....

Oh, and the lawn is not an option: I'd get some lovely photos of the neighbour's hedge, but not the lights in the distance. Tripod is not tall enough to have the camera peek over the top of a 14-feet-tall hedge.

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Being that both SonnyE and I are volcanologists and seismologists, I will agree with that which SonnyE has suggested to you !

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Nov 7, 2014 09:57:43   #
huskyrider705 Loc: Phenix City, Alabama
 
Don't know if you can do this with Nikon but if you can, set your camera to live view on the LCD screen and magnify 10x and you will be able to see if you are getting vibrations especially at longer focal lengths.

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Nov 7, 2014 10:01:51   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
dynoking wrote:
Good morning Sonny,

I see you use a Tamron 150-600 MM. I need (want) a lens for sky shots. I can not afford a Nikon lens (I use a D7100) and I am leery of after market equipment. Would you recommend your lens?

Richie


Hi Richie,
I sent you a PM. Check there. ;)
Yes I would highly recommend the Big Tammy.

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Nov 7, 2014 10:53:43   #
tomw
 
NealB wrote:
Buy some silicone or nitrile sheet at least 3/4" thick that is a maximum durometer of 40 Shore A. Cut in to 4"X4" squares and place under each leg. The materials should cost between $5.00 to $10.00.


This sounds like a promising approach. It sounds like Morning Star is stuck with the location.

What about chunks of memory foam under the legs? Or a memory foam mat under the whole tripod?

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Nov 7, 2014 10:57:08   #
Sprocket Loc: Upstate New York
 
Morning Star wrote:
I'm playing with some night-time photography and because at this point what I take photos of is not important, I set up the camera on my sundeck.
So often we see suggestions about locking the mirror, using a 2 second delay or using a remote shutter release to prevent vibration resulting in blurred photos.

I followed all these "rules" and still ended up with a blurred photo. The lens was stopped to f/16, exposure set to 60 seconds.
So, two areas of influence I had not counted on: We live less than 2 blocks from a busy highway, and while the shutter was open, I did hear one of those heavy transport trucks go by.
And our sundeck has a wooden floor, and I walked away from the camera while the shutter was open.
Both causing vibrations that travelled through the tripod to the camera, resulting in blurred photos.
Although I was still mighty proud of them, as the street- and house lights in the photos did have the star points I was after: 14 star points, 7 blades in the lens.
I'll be out there again to try different settings, in this case the heck with the vibrations ;-)
Next time I'm at our son's, where there is no heavy traffic and they have 10 acres of solid ground, I'll try as well!
I'm playing with some night-time photography and b... (show quote)


Each board in decking bows individually as you step. I would recommend a piece of scarp wood that covers enough area for ALL the legs to rest on together. Dissipating like this will prevent a single board from messing up your shot.

You need a "shock absorber" on the deck first. I recommend a piece of Styrofoam or a couple of couch cushions. "Or patio furniture cushions" Then place the piece of wood on top of that. Then your tripod. This will make your tripod un-sturdy, so I would first try leaving VR in the on position even though the camera is on a tripod. Don't attempt this on a windy day or with any other movement at all on the deck.

It is important to strategically try to position everything directly over a floor joist. "The wood that caries the deck boards." They run about every 16 inches to two feet apart. This is where your decking is the strongest and most stable.

Lock the mirror.Do all the proper camera adjustments and most importantly, DO NOT WALK AWAY OR MOVE.



:-)

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Nov 7, 2014 11:06:26   #
wj cody Loc: springfield illinois
 
your house will always be a transmitter of sub-harmonic vibrations, whether or not you may even be aware of them.

the best bet for long exposures is always a wooden tripod. wood, of all materials made, transmits the least amount of disturbance. and, foot for foot, is stronger than steel.

good luck with your night imaging. try lowering your iso and keeping your shutter open for an hour - the results are sometimes rather stunning.

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Nov 7, 2014 11:17:27   #
Wickspics Loc: Detroits Northwest Side. Cody High School.
 
If you use a Tri-Pod go to your lens and turn OFF the Stabilizer ; if not off when on tri-pod it will cause blur.

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Nov 7, 2014 11:25:28   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
Only ZSG, and wj cody have a grasp here.
You cannot dampen out the vibration of the deck. It will still be moving if a mouse farts in the house.
It is elevated and as such intensifies the vibrations from within and underneath.
Move to the Earth and get grounded. Then hold still. :thumbup:

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