KW Conch wrote:
Not hung up on any word. If we don't vote to elect people to represent us, I would like to know why we bother to go to the polls.
Because maybe someday we the people will get the right folks in OFFICE to truly represent us. The problem we have in this country (USA) is the repersentive we elect are treated or should I say co-opted into accepting money from crooked lobbyist or big corpartration.
This came right off your second link and is exactly what I said to begin this discussion:
Because U.S. voters choose congressional members, rather than vote directly on every governmental issue, the U.S. government is a representative democracy.
KW Conch wrote:
This came right off your second link and is exactly what I said to begin this discussion:
Because U.S. voters choose congressional members, rather than vote directly on every governmental issue, the U.S. government is a representative democracy.
Yes, I read that but did you read the rest? Both vote, both elect representative but there is a differenances. You are trying to change our form of government from a Republic to a democracy but it will not work. Our Founding Fathers saw to that in the Consitution. We are a government of Laws. You can call it a representative democracy if you want but it will not change the facts.
You must not have read far enough down:
The United States as a RepublicYou may have heard pundits say that the United States is not a democracy, but a republic. In fact, it is both, as you may have concluded. It is not, however, a direct democracy.
In the Federalist Papers, specifically essay No.10, James Madison wrote at length about why a direct democracy would lead to dangerously powerful factions, and why democracy should be limited to protect the minority from a misguided majority, as well as to ensure property rights and security. He believed this aim could be achieved by a system that allowed citizens to vote for representatives, rather than to decide issues. A republican form of government would also prove to be less unwieldy than a large direct democracy and therefore more able to accommodate the nation's territory and population expansions. A republic would survive, whereas a direct democracy would disintegrate, possibly violently, under the weight of factions, greed, and "rages" generated by ill-advised policies and social movements.
The United States' use of representative government and an electoral college were therefore designed as safeguards by men who wanted a government of, by and for the people, but did not entirely trust those same people to govern themselves well.
http://www.ehow.com/info_8169228_difference-between-democracy-republic-nation.html#ixzz2iUSi4eKh
Bangee5 wrote:
Yes, I read that but did you read the rest? Both vote, both elect representative but there is a differenances. You are trying to change our form of government from a Republic to a democracy but it will not work. Our Founding Fathers saw to that in the Consitution. We are a government of Laws. You can call it a representative democracy if you want but it will not change the facts.
You must not have read far enough down:
The United States as a RepublicYou may have heard pundits say that the United States is not a democracy, but a republic. In fact, it is both, as you may have concluded. It is not, however, a direct democracy.
In the Federalist Papers, specifically essay No.10, James Madison wrote at length about why a direct democracy would lead to dangerously powerful factions, and why democracy should be limited to protect the minority from a misguided majority, as well as to ensure property rights and security. He believed this aim could be achieved by a system that allowed citizens to vote for representatives, rather than to decide issues. A republican form of government would also prove to be less unwieldy than a large direct democracy and therefore more able to accommodate the nation's territory and population expansions. A republic would survive, whereas a direct democracy would disintegrate, possibly violently, under the weight of factions, greed, and "rages" generated by ill-advised policies and social movements.
The United States' use of representative government and an electoral college were therefore designed as safeguards by men who wanted a government of, by and for the people, but did not entirely trust those same people to govern themselves well.
http://www.ehow.com/info_8169228_difference-between-democracy-republic-nation.html#ixzz2iUSi4eKhYes, I read that but did you read the rest? Both v... (
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I know that we are a Republic and not a Democracy. But, we both know that we vote directly for someone to represent us in DC.
KW Conch wrote:
I know that we are a Republic and not a Democracy. But, we both know that we vote directly for someone to represent us in DC.
Before we began this discussion I knew little about the subject of Democracy or of why we are a Republic. What I like about butting-heads with you is that I learn something new and that makes it worth coming here. KW, you are only one of my teachers. There is a lot more for me to learn.
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