Obummer (Page 17): There you go again, defending Socialism. We are a Republic as in The Republic of the United States of America. We don't say, God Save the Queen. We are Capitalist...

Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

KW Conch wrote:

Actually, we are a representative democracy.

The only people talking about socialism is the TP and they call everything that isn't nailed down, socialism.
They have no clue what socialism really is.

There you go again, defending Socialism. We are a Republic as in The Republic of the United States of America. We don't say, God Save the Queen. We are Capitalist not Socialist.

http://www.thisnation.com/question/011.html

How ever, parts of our government do practice Socialism, like the EPA. If there is a puddle on your land they can take it from you because of the Clean Air and Water Act.

http://bunkerville.wordpress.com/2013/10/21/massisve-epa-propsed-land-grab-underway-rigged-and-corrupt/

http://www.wnd.com/2011/09/348077/

KW Conch Loc: USA

Bangee5 wrote:

There you go again, defending Socialism. We are a ... (show quote)

Representative democracy is a form of democracy founded on the principle of elected individuals representing the people. Here, people allow representatives who form an independent ruling body to represent them in the various forms of democratic process and are not directly involved in any of the processes of legislation or lawmaking. This form of democracy is found at the federal level of the U.S., and the branches of government in U.S. act on behalf of the people. To a very large extent, the whole concept of representation depends upon the ability of the people to make their wishes known to their representatives. Representative democracy is often considered as superior to direct democracy because it provides a solution for the problems of mob rule, issue overload, and demagogy.

http://definitions.uslegal.com/r/representative-democracy/

cz3056 Loc: Somewhere in Michigan or Texas

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Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

KW Conch wrote:

Representative democracy is a form of democracy fo... (show quote)

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/democracy

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/republic

KW Conch Loc: USA

Bangee5 wrote:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/democracy

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/republic

So you disagree that we elect people to represent us in the government ?

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

We elect them but they represent the represent the large campaign donors not the average electorate.
Don't be naive , fund raisers average $35,000 a plate, how many voters make that in a year.

KW Conch wrote:

So you disagree that we elect people to represent us in the government ?

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

Sorry for the grammar.
We elect them but they represent the large campaign donors not the average electorate.
Don't be naive , fund raisers average $35,000 a plate, how many voters make that in a year.

letmedance wrote:

We elect them but they represent the represent the large campaign donors not the average electorate.
Don't be naive , fund raisers average $35,000 a plate, how many voters make that in a year.

Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

KW Conch wrote:

So you disagree that we elect people to represent us in the government ?

Don't try to put words in my mouth... You didn't check out the links did you? There is not that much difference between a Republic and a Democracy. Except that we are a Republic because our Constitution says that we are a Republic.

Article. IV. Section. 4 of the Constitution of the United States of America
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of
Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the
Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic
Violence.

So what is the point of this argument?

Republic
a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives responsible to them and governing according to law

Democracy
a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections

KW Conch Loc: USA

letmedance wrote:

Sorry for the grammar.
We elect them but they represent the large campaign donors not the average electorate.
Don't be naive , fund raisers average $35,000 a plate, how many voters make that in a year.

I agree.....we elect them and the campaign donors then buy them.

KW Conch Loc: USA

Bangee5 wrote:

Don't try to put words in my mouth... You didn't c... (show quote)

Yes, I checked out both links. I don't see any difference in what I said.
I agree, what is the point in this discussion ?

hamtrack Loc: Omaha NE

I think your description is correct. Especially as it applies to the last sentence which is what we have today.

KW Conch wrote:

Representative democracy is a form of democracy fo... (show quote)

garceh Loc: florida

FrumCA wrote:

Well, this sort of behavior didn't seem to hurt you know who did it? Colin Powell should have run. He definitely would have been a strong candidate. Lying doesn't seem to keep anyone out of office these days.

Right. Like those in office now always tell the truth.

Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

hamtrack wrote:

I think your description is correct. Especially as it applies to the last sentence which is what we have today.

KW is hung up on a word - Democracy. There are many forms of Democracies. England has a Democracy form of Government whereas, the United States has a Republic kind of Government. As a society both countries practice democracy.

Being a Republican has nothing to do with this country being a Republic.

Being a Democrat has nothing to do with Democracy

hamtrack Loc: Omaha NE

The truth is what the King decides is the truth, so quiet down and eat your cake.

garceh wrote:

Right. Like those in office now always tell the truth.

KW Conch Loc: USA

Bangee5 wrote:

KW is hung up on a word - Democracy. There are many forms of Democracies. England has a Democracy form of Government whereas, the United States has a Republic kind of Government. As a society both countries practice democracy.

Being a Republican has nothing to do with this country being a Republic.

Being a Democrat has nothing to do with Democracy

Not hung up on any word. If we don't vote to elect people to represent us, I would like to know why we bother to go to the polls.