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Sep 7, 2013 15:16:10   #
xzoup Loc: Arkansas
 
I am using a Canon 5Dm3 24-70mm f2.8 II camera/lens combination. I am pretty good at getting my camera to give me the colors that I see with my eyes. Recently I was shooting a sunrise for the first time in a long time, using a monopod,my shot was sharp but my concern is that the sun was oarnge, when I did my post processing my sun was yellow with the sky around it sort of an orange tint. I did some ajustments to my picture styles. I was shooting in neutral and had my color up to +1, AV mode with lens on auto focus, I couldn't make that sun orange in PP to save my life. I shoot raw and us digital photo pro, along with adobe photoshop elements 10. My question to all the sunrise folks out there, what do I need to be doing different. thanks

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Sep 7, 2013 15:26:41   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
xzoup wrote:
I am using a Canon 5Dm3 24-70mm f2.8 II camera/lens combination. I am pretty good at getting my camera to give me the colors that I see with my eyes. Recently I was shooting a sunrise for the first time in a long time, using a monopod,my shot was sharp but my concern is that the sun was oarnge, when I did my post processing my sun was yellow with the sky around it sort of an orange tint. I did some ajustments to my picture styles. I was shooting in neutral and had my color up to +1, AV mode with lens on auto focus, I couldn't make that sun orange in PP to save my life. I shoot raw and us digital photo pro, along with adobe photoshop elements 10. My question to all the sunrise folks out there, what do I need to be doing different. thanks
I am using a Canon 5Dm3 24-70mm f2.8 II camera/len... (show quote)


X, did you fiddle with the temp?
If I'm not happy with a color, I also go through all my presets, like cloudy, shade, flourecent etc. Once in a rare while, I like one better.
Good luck. SS

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Sep 7, 2013 15:28:01   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
This is a situation where the limited dynamic range of the digital sensor becomes evident. To get that orange your eyes saw, you will likely need to experiment with HDR processing as your camera cannot record all the colors your eyes see in a single image.

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Sep 7, 2013 15:37:21   #
xzoup Loc: Arkansas
 
Yes The temp just made the whole pic a darker orange, or green blue. I don't understand I'm usually pretty good at this stuff. I'm going out again in in the morning. This time I'll try using a tri-pod, remote shutter, Iso 100. I'm going to try TV at 20 seconds, I think I will even bracket my shots, and use the high speed shutter. I will post my results. Somethings got to work. Thanks for the reply sharp.

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Sep 7, 2013 15:37:22   #
DaDiCarr Loc: Margate, FL
 
Very interesting , this is whatt I like about this forum, one can learn here a lot, thanks to all of you.

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Sep 7, 2013 15:40:27   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
xzoup wrote:
Yes The temp just made the whole pic a darker orange, or green blue. I don't understand I'm usually pretty good at this stuff. I'm going out again in in the morning. This time I'll try using a tri-pod, remote shutter, Iso 100. I'm going to try TV at 20 seconds, I think I will even bracket my shots, and use the high speed shutter. I will post my results. Somethings got to work. Thanks for the reply sharp.


A twenty second exposure of the sun will only yield a pure white mass unless you have a whole stack of ND filters mounted. LESS exposure time will yield much closer to the actual color you see, but that will leave the foreground black. That is why the need for HDR to get what you are wanting to capture.

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Sep 7, 2013 15:40:54   #
xzoup Loc: Arkansas
 
Thanks shooter, I forget about the Hdr since I don't use it that much, just as good as a bracket except I get to blend.

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Sep 7, 2013 15:43:31   #
xzoup Loc: Arkansas
 
Thank everyone kindly, I think this problem is solved. Thank you again.

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Sep 7, 2013 21:53:48   #
FredB Loc: A little below the Mason-Dixon line.
 
MT Shooter wrote:
This is a situation where the limited dynamic range of the digital sensor becomes evident. To get that orange your eyes saw, you will likely need to experiment with HDR processing as your camera cannot record all the colors your eyes see in a single image.
+1 exactly correct. Scenes with a wide dynamic color range such as sunsets and sunrises often cry out for HDR processing to capture what our eyes see. There simply is no other way to get the range.

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Sep 8, 2013 00:21:30   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
xzoup wrote:
Yes The temp just made the whole pic a darker orange, or green blue. I don't understand I'm usually pretty good at this stuff. I'm going out again in in the morning. This time I'll try using a tri-pod, remote shutter, Iso 100. I'm going to try TV at 20 seconds, I think I will even bracket my shots, and use the high speed shutter. I will post my results. Somethings got to work. Thanks for the reply sharp.


Just use manual mode, iso 100, f/8 to f/16, put the camera in LiveView mode and adjust the shutter until the image on the LCD looks the same as your eye sees it, use a remote shutter release and go for it.

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Sep 8, 2013 00:38:00   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
xzoup wrote:
I am using a Canon 5Dm3 24-70mm f2.8 II camera/lens combination. I am pretty good at getting my camera to give me the colors that I see with my eyes. Recently I was shooting a sunrise for the first time in a long time, using a monopod,my shot was sharp but my concern is that the sun was oarnge, when I did my post processing my sun was yellow with the sky around it sort of an orange tint. I did some ajustments to my picture styles. I was shooting in neutral and had my color up to +1, AV mode with lens on auto focus, I couldn't make that sun orange in PP to save my life. I shoot raw and us digital photo pro, along with adobe photoshop elements 10. My question to all the sunrise folks out there, what do I need to be doing different. thanks
I am using a Canon 5Dm3 24-70mm f2.8 II camera/len... (show quote)

What color temperature did you use?

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Sep 8, 2013 05:42:56   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
I shoot in RAW + manual mode and under expose, then open the shadows in

Photoshop CS6. I also use a tripod

http://www.pbase.com/manglesphoto/new_image.s_for_apri_2013
There are a few HDRs here too, using 5-7 images processed using Nik filters
hope this helps you.
Have fun, experiment!!, Now you have the equipment the rest is cheap lol

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Sep 8, 2013 06:35:05   #
winterrose Loc: Kyneton, Victoria, Australia
 
xzoup wrote:
Thank everyone kindly, I think this problem is solved. Thank you again.


By the sound of things I suggest that you have simply overexposed the shot.

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Sep 8, 2013 08:51:15   #
Mudshark Loc: Illinois
 
I think all photographers have trouble with sunrise....

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Sep 8, 2013 08:53:59   #
winterrose Loc: Kyneton, Victoria, Australia
 
Mudshark wrote:
I think all photographers have trouble with sunrise....


Not me. I don't have any sunrise trouble....I never get up that early.....

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