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Jul 27, 2013 11:21:47   #
carogray Loc: Santa Monica originally UK
 
Help I take mainly photos of landscapes, plants birds, people but not really have any experience with inside theatrical shots.. I have once with a Nikon 50mm and they came out fine - so a friend asked me to photograph her musical.. dismal failure even though I had a nikon 70-200 I put the ISO way up, so the shutter speed would be fast but they are all blurred - maybe one person might be in focus but thats all - can anyone help..? is it me or the lens i got it on ebay? but other photos I have taken have been great with this lens.. any help appreciated....

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Jul 27, 2013 11:51:23   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
You put the ISO right up, what is right up, you need to increase the iso and shutter speeds for hand held

Try 3200

Also I bet you are using all the focus points and even perhaps on continuous focus, use just the centre focus point on single shot, focus on a person the re compose, even manual focus they don't go back and forth much by the look of it





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Jul 27, 2013 12:01:36   #
hlmichel Loc: New Hope, Minnesota
 
You fail to mention the camera you are using. As Jr1 asks, what is right up? For me it would be 1600.

Wouldn't you be getting more light at the max aperture of your 50mm prime than with the zoom?

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Jul 27, 2013 12:13:28   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
I often shoot at 6400 when needed, having come from film, when 800asa was considered fast (and grainy) it took me a while to get used to not having to worry about grain with modern DSLRS

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Jul 27, 2013 12:44:58   #
hlmichel Loc: New Hope, Minnesota
 
JR1 wrote:
I often shoot at 6400 when needed, having come from film, when 800asa was considered fast (and grainy) it took me a while to get used to not having to worry about grain with modern DSLRS


God, I remember that. Of course, all of my film cameras were point and shoot, and I had no idea back then what the asa numbers meant.
But after reading articles in photography magazines, I actually started considering what I was going to be shooting when buying film. Memories.

The last picture in the original post--and my eyes are failing me somewhat today--seems to be suffering from a bit of camera shake and there appear to be slightly blown highlights.
Could it be that there was a little bit of room to increase the shutter speed?

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Jul 27, 2013 13:46:52   #
carogray Loc: Santa Monica originally UK
 
JR1 wrote:
You put the ISO right up, what is right up, you need to increase the iso and shutter speeds for hand held

Try 3200

Also I bet you are using all the focus points and even perhaps on continuous focus, use just the centre focus point on single shot, focus on a person the re compose, even manual focus they don't go back and forth much by the look of it


Oh wow that is sooo helpful - but I have just checked my ISO was 3200, I was at times using my tripod and I was using not all focus points but 11 focus points.. and I tried to focus on a person and then shot but I didn't lock the focus ... I shot at 125m at F/11 - but thank you will try that..love your photos - thats exactly the focus I want - they are great - what distance should I be at ..? does it matter? were you near the stage or far..?

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Jul 27, 2013 13:49:44   #
carogray Loc: Santa Monica originally UK
 
hlmichel wrote:
You fail to mention the camera you are using. As Jr1 asks, what is right up? For me it would be 1600.

Wouldn't you be getting more light at the max aperture of your 50mm prime than with the zoom?


Hi thanks for answering ... Im using a Nikon 7000 - and well maybe I should go back to my 50mm it certainly was better but I was told this would be perfect as it is a 1:2.8 - so that should be fast.. maybe I was too far away but I don't think so I went back and forth.. my ISO was 3200 I shot at 125m at F11...

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Jul 27, 2013 13:50:50   #
carogray Loc: Santa Monica originally UK
 
JR1 wrote:
I often shoot at 6400 when needed, having come from film, when 800asa was considered fast (and grainy) it took me a while to get used to not having to worry about grain with modern DSLRS


Ill try that.. thank you..

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Jul 27, 2013 14:49:05   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
carogray wrote:
Oh wow that is sooo helpful - but I have just checked my ISO was 3200, I was at times using my tripod and I was using not all focus points but 11 focus points.. and I tried to focus on a person and then shot but I didn't lock the focus ... I shot at 125m at F/11 - but thank you will try that..love your photos - thats exactly the focus I want - they are great - what distance should I be at ..? does it matter? were you near the stage or far..?


Then use 6400

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Jul 27, 2013 14:49:53   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
carogray wrote:
Oh wow that is sooo helpful - but I have just checked my ISO was 3200, I was at times using my tripod and I was using not all focus points but 11 focus points.. and I tried to focus on a person and then shot but I didn't lock the focus ... I shot at 125m at F/11 - but thank you will try that..love your photos - thats exactly the focus I want - they are great - what distance should I be at ..? does it matter? were you near the stage or far..?


I was 10 feet away from the act, I would happily use a 200mm at 6400 30-50 feet away



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Jul 27, 2013 14:52:12   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
carogray wrote:
Ill try that.. thank you..


Remember you can always use noiseware community edition later

http://noiseware-community-edition.en.softonic.com/

This shot has been edited using noiseware to remove "noise" from the shot, what used to be called grain at high iso/asa



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Jul 27, 2013 14:59:35   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
Two images from google images one been processed with noisware





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Jul 27, 2013 15:58:40   #
jdubu Loc: San Jose, CA
 
I have also shot local plays for my wife.

I adjust my ISO based on the minimum shutter speed I will need given the stage lighting and the action of the players.

The ISO varies and I have gone up to 6400 in low lighting. These examples were all shot on a Canon 7D with an older 80-200mm 2.8L lens in manual mode. AF was single point.

The first 2 were at iso 640 because the stage lighting was for the most part, very bright. Decided my min shutter speed and aperture. Stayed mostly on .125 and varied the aperture if stage lighting got a bit dimmer.

I was about 50-60 feet from the stage.

All examples were downsized and saved for web, so they are much softer than the sourced files.

At 80mm, 640 iso, f4, shutter at .125
At 80mm, 640 iso, f4, shutter at .125...

At 200mm, 640 iso, f4, shutter at .125
At 200mm, 640 iso, f4, shutter at .125...

6400 iso, f2.8, shutter at .320
6400 iso, f2.8, shutter at .320...

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Jul 27, 2013 16:46:22   #
carogray Loc: Santa Monica originally UK
 
JR1 wrote:
Then use 6400


Great I will - thank you..

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Jul 27, 2013 16:47:23   #
carogray Loc: Santa Monica originally UK
 
JR1 wrote:
I was 10 feet away from the act, I would happily use a 200mm at 6400 30-50 feet away


Thats helpful - your photos are so clear and focused - thanks so much for your help..

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