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Mar 14, 2013 16:34:18   #
Coolcameragirl Loc: Bradenton, FL
 
I am looking for help. I want to purchase these filters for 1 stop up to 4 stops, not screw on, but filters that will fit onto a holder. Also, want glass, not resin. Does anyone use these and can you direct me to the right place? I know they are not cheap. Someone lent me these filters while I was on a trip and I do not have contact information to ask them what they were. I've looked on B&H and I am confused. Thanks for any help.

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Mar 14, 2013 17:14:55   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
I use the Tiffen Grad ND glass filters. They are sized to fit the Cokin "P" series holder. Singh Ray and Schneider make them too, and yes, they get expensive. And I think the Singh Rays are resin, like Lee and Cokin.

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Mar 14, 2013 20:25:31   #
wilsondl2 Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska
 
The one you used may have been the old "series" filters. you had a holder that would hold drop in filters and then it would screw into an adaptor that was threaded to the size of your lens. with several sizes of adaptors you could use the same filters with many different size lenses. I use series 7 for lenses 49mm - 62mm and series 8 (witch is 67 mm). I have many of the filters for film that I don't use anymore but I do have diffusion filters, neutral density and others that I do use. I use the 67 mm holder with my circular polarizer to adapt to lenses that use different size filters. - Dave

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Mar 14, 2013 20:33:56   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Here is the link to Tiffens ND filters, including several different dimensions of hard edge glass models.
http://www.tiffen.com/results.html?search_type_no=352&tablename=filters

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Mar 14, 2013 21:41:45   #
Coolcameragirl Loc: Bradenton, FL
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Here is the link to Tiffens ND filters, including several different dimensions of hard edge glass models.
http://www.tiffen.com/results.html?search_type_no=352&tablename=filters


Thanks, Mt. If I can afford one right now, which would you suggest. I will be using it on bright, cloudy skies and water.

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Mar 14, 2013 21:42:21   #
Coolcameragirl Loc: Bradenton, FL
 
Thanks, Dave. I'll look those up.

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Mar 14, 2013 21:54:30   #
FredB Loc: A little below the Mason-Dixon line.
 
Montana man knows what he's talking about. Lee & Tiffen make very well received drop-ins, if you want to 'test the waters' without laying out a bunch of cash you can use the Cokin filter holders and filters for not a lot of $$$. Nicely, other filters will fit them as well. Get step-up adapters for your lenses so you only need to buy one filter holder - get it for your largest front-element size.

... and I suppose then they'd be "step-down' adapters...

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Mar 14, 2013 23:13:57   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
FredB wrote:
. .. and I suppose then they'd be "step-down' adapters...

"Step up." I wanted to try that type without spending a lot of money, so I got a set of the Cokin style filters on Amazon. I think it was under $50 for the set. No complaints.

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Mar 15, 2013 00:46:08   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
I've never used an ND filter. Do they work well when shooting in harsh sunlight?

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Mar 15, 2013 06:50:13   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
SteveR wrote:
I've never used an ND filter. Do they work well when shooting in harsh sunlight?

They make your camera think it's not so bright out. This can let you make longer exposures. If you set up your camera near a busy highway and take a 30-sec exposure, you'll see the road, but not the cars. Adorama has a video on this.

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Mar 15, 2013 07:23:10   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
I also use Cokin, but the Z Series. Z is the largest size

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Mar 15, 2013 10:32:55   #
FredB Loc: A little below the Mason-Dixon line.
 
jerryc41 wrote:
FredB wrote:
. .. and I suppose then they'd be "step-down' adapters...

"Step up." I wanted to try that type without spending a lot of money, so I got a set of the Cokin style filters on Amazon. I think it was under $50 for the set. No complaints.
My idea was, if you have a Cokin frame in a 77mm adapter, and you buy another adapter to mount it on an 58mm front element, that's a 'step down'... But it depends on your viewpoint, I guess.

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Mar 15, 2013 10:47:47   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
FredB wrote:
jerryc41 wrote:
FredB wrote:
. .. and I suppose then they'd be "step-down' adapters...

"Step up." I wanted to try that type without spending a lot of money, so I got a set of the Cokin style filters on Amazon. I think it was under $50 for the set. No complaints.
My idea was, if you have a Cokin frame in a 77mm adapter, and you buy another adapter to mount it on an 58mm front element, that's a 'step down'... But it depends on your viewpoint, I guess.

I used to think the same thing, but MT set me straight. From the viewpoint of your lens, you are always going to a larger size. Putting a 58mm filter on a 77mm lens would be a step-down - in more ays than one.

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Mar 15, 2013 10:55:31   #
FredB Loc: A little below the Mason-Dixon line.
 
jerryc41 wrote:
FredB wrote:
jerryc41 wrote:
FredB wrote:
. .. and I suppose then they'd be "step-down' adapters...

"Step up." I wanted to try that type without spending a lot of money, so I got a set of the Cokin style filters on Amazon. I think it was under $50 for the set. No complaints.
My idea was, if you have a Cokin frame in a 77mm adapter, and you buy another adapter to mount it on an 58mm front element, that's a 'step down'... But it depends on your viewpoint, I guess.

I used to think the same thing, but MT set me straight. From the viewpoint of your lens, you are always going to a larger size. Putting a 58mm filter on a 77mm lens would be a step-down - in more ays than one.
quote=FredB quote=jerryc41 quote=FredB . .. and... (show quote)
I believe you misunderstand the inflection of my nuance.

1) You have a 77mm adapter on to which a Cokin frame slides. You mount that on your 77mm front-element lens.

2) You want to mount your Cokin frame on a 58-mm front element lens. So you buy A SECOND ADAPTER, which is 58mm in diameter. That, to me, is what I meant - since, in the Cokin system, the lens mount adapters are separate from the frame.

NOW, that said, you have a 77mm screw in type filter. You wish to place that filter on a 58mm lens. The adapter you purchase to go from 77mm to 58mm is a step-down adapter. I don't care what lens it ends up on, if you go from native 77mm to a smaller number, its a step down.

I would never put a 58mm filter on a 77mm lens. That's just silly.

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Mar 15, 2013 11:01:06   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
FredB wrote:
jerryc41 wrote:
FredB wrote:
jerryc41 wrote:
FredB wrote:
. .. and I suppose then they'd be "step-down' adapters...

"Step up." I wanted to try that type without spending a lot of money, so I got a set of the Cokin style filters on Amazon. I think it was under $50 for the set. No complaints.
My idea was, if you have a Cokin frame in a 77mm adapter, and you buy another adapter to mount it on an 58mm front element, that's a 'step down'... But it depends on your viewpoint, I guess.

I used to think the same thing, but MT set me straight. From the viewpoint of your lens, you are always going to a larger size. Putting a 58mm filter on a 77mm lens would be a step-down - in more ays than one.
quote=FredB quote=jerryc41 quote=FredB . .. and... (show quote)
I believe you misunderstand the inflection of my nuance.

1) You have a 77mm adapter on to which a Cokin frame slides. You mount that on your 77mm front-element lens.

2) You want to mount your Cokin frame on a 58-mm front element lens. So you buy A SECOND ADAPTER, which is 58mm in diameter. That, to me, is what I meant - since, in the Cokin system, the lens mount adapters are separate from the frame.

NOW, that said, you have a 77mm screw in type filter. You wish to place that filter on a 58mm lens. The adapter you purchase to go from 77mm to 58mm is a step-down adapter. I don't care what lens it ends up on, if you go from native 77mm to a smaller number, its a step down.

I would never put a 58mm filter on a 77mm lens. That's just silly.
quote=jerryc41 quote=FredB quote=jerryc41 quot... (show quote)

OK. Got it.

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