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May 3, 2024 07:30:59   #
There are multiple posts about similar subjects, but none address mine specifically. My biggest hindrance to selling my photography online has been shipping. How to do it and how much it costs. Right now, I am mostly interested in how to do it. I am leaning towards sandwiching simple prints, matted prints, and framed prints, (everything) between two sheets of 1/8 inch hardboard. A 4' x 8' sheet is $14 at Home Depot. I plan to use glassine paper on both sides to protect the print, matted print, or framed print. I suppose a layer of bubble wrap on the latter would be a good idea. I haven't figured out exactly how I will stabilize any of the above. Nor have I figured out what to use and how I will wrap it all up. For everything, but the framed print, I thought, maybe using craft tape to tape the hard board pieces together. I haven't figured out how to connect the two pieces of hardboard for the framed print. If anybody has any ideas, I would appreciate it.
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Apr 8, 2024 21:13:00   #
MJPerini wrote:
I will second Baryta papers. My favorite was Ilford Gold Fiber Silk, used it for over 10 years until they lost their supplier. If you want to know How good Baryta coated paper is, try to find Michale Reichman's Old article "Battle of the Barytas" He reviewed the Ilford, Canon and Hahnemule offerings and picked Ilford --I'm down to my last roll.
The Great B&W Fiber based Printing papers were all Baryta coated so it even has a familiar smell.
Because of the whiteness of Baryta, the papers also exhibit some of the widest color Gamuts and contrast ranges.
They really benefit from the 11 ink 10 Channel Pigment inks in the high end Epson Photo Printers.
Results can be stunning.
I will second Baryta papers. My favorite was Ilfo... (show quote)


So, are you saying they don’t make the Gold Fiber Silk anymore? The reason I picked this one is because the only representation I could find of Baryta Papers showed this one as having the most texture. I felt like that would break up the gloss. I don’t like gloss or, I didn’t before this. Hahnemuhle makes a matte baryta paper, I just discovered but I can’t see how that would work. Maybe it would be better than regular matte paper, in that it might not scratch as badly. Regular paper is fine with me as long as you handle really dark prints or dark areas of a print with care. I’m gonna look for that paper you were talking about. If it’s better than this, I want it.
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Apr 8, 2024 20:44:27   #
tcthome wrote:
Tightest curl? Is that from it soaking up a lot of ink used for this paper? Or what causes the curl?


I’m not sure, but it is the thickest paper I’ve ever used. And I sort of feel like the barium layer acts like clay, keeping its rolled shape. I just wasted five prints trying to uncurl them. I thought I was being smart. I made a De-curler using one and a half inch PVC pipe with about 4 feet of canvas. I put end caps on each end of the PVC pipe to sort of lift it off of the table to give the leading edge of the print some play when the edge meets the print each time it wraps around. Well, that wasn’t enough play and I wasn’t paying attention and wound up with 5 of them having a “dent” the width of the paper. One large dent from the first wrap and a slight dent where it came around again. (I’m just realizing how hard this is to explain). I tried everything to get that dent out. The paper is so nice I wasn’t going to let a dent ruin it. So I folded them up nicely and crammed them in my trash can. Angry at myself. Made me sick. So, now I am unwrapping a fat roll of 36” Kraft paper, sticking them in there and rolling the Kraft paper back up with the print inside. It’s so wide that I don’t have to worry about the leading edge meeting the print. Comes out, still curled, but not as bad. Gonna leave it overnight and see what happens.
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Apr 8, 2024 20:33:47   #
GrahamWishart wrote:
You might consider not using glass. On a recent workshop I was persuaded to try this and the transformation of my images was striking. In a non hostile environmet pritns made with pigment inks last very well only needing occasional gentle dusting. I urge you to try this!


I think I will try it. I don’t see how it could be much more risky than canvas.
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Apr 8, 2024 20:32:03   #
I will at home then. I’ve been wanting to. I don’t see why it would be that much more risky than canvas.
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Apr 7, 2024 21:38:21   #
If you haven’t tried this paper, you have done yourself a disservice. You absolutely must. I just printed three images using 44” roll paper on my Canon Pro-4100 and it blew my mind. Putting it behind glass would feel like a waste, but I suppose I’ll have to. A 2.5” border on a 9x12 print would seem wasteful but for handling and cutting, it’s perfect. My homemade de-curler is getting a workout. The paper has the tightest curl of any paper I’ve ever used.
Anyway, I just wanted to share my experience.
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Feb 23, 2024 12:29:31   #
mikeroetex wrote:
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You selling pictures or frames?


Just saw your response.
I’m selling both. That is what the whole thing is about.
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Feb 1, 2024 06:13:16   #
mikeroetex wrote:
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You selling pictures or frames?


Am I the only one that sees the frame "nearly as", if not "just as" important as the print? It would certainly be complimentary.
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Feb 1, 2024 05:58:56   #
sippyjug104 wrote:
One of the many hats that I wore in the business was sales training and I reminded all of the trainees that we are ALL customers and those we want to sell to are no different than us.

People buy for THEIR reasons, not yours. It is also a buyer's market and unless you have an exclusive product, the buyer will always have other choices. Perhaps think about this: A picture of a landscape is far different than that of a staged setting. Why...? Because you do not own or have any claim to the scenery, which many times may be public areas. Did you get a release from the owner of the property you photographed to sell the image of their property for your financial gain? I suspect not.
One of the many hats that I wore in the business w... (show quote)


I was just thinking about that last night. I have a book (an E-Book rather) about the legal aspects of photography. It's relatively easy to follow, it's just really long. I'm wondering now, if I shouldn't take the time to read the whole thing. However, I did gather, from the little I read, that state and local laws play a major role too. You can't always go on your gut either. Sometimes what feels right isn't always right and sometimes what feels wrong, isn't always wrong.

I appreciate the food for thought.
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Feb 1, 2024 05:49:07   #
rcorne001 wrote:
What if you agree to splitting the bill with delivery upon "paid in full". Would that be something you could handle?


Very interesting. I hadn't thought of that. I do trust that they will pay me. Additionally, Having them hanging before getting paid lessens their ability to change their mind. Now, if we had a contract, I suppose that would be almost, if not just as good; assuming we have the same morals.
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Feb 1, 2024 04:28:40   #
Bridges wrote:
It sounds like you are offering a top-quality product. Have you explained to the buyer how an investment in archival prints and matting will hold its value for many years to come? Tell him you could use lower-grade papers and matting but in 10 years the prints could fade and the mats turn yellow around the edges. Explain that your reputation as a photographer would be diminished if the prints didn't hold up so you would prefer to continue providing the products you are currently selling. As for selling the portfolio prints I can't offer much advice. It may be some of the staff want a smaller print to put in their office rather than exhibit in a public area. You might ask them how they intend to use the smaller prints. This would be a reasonable request for an unframed print since they may want to match frames already in use in their office.
It sounds like you are offering a top-quality prod... (show quote)


A breath of fresh air. Thank you. There is a God.
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Jan 30, 2024 16:44:45   #
Real Nikon Lover wrote:
Every professional photographer I have used had "PROOF" embedded on the photo when released to me. If I wanted a good copy I had to pay the set price. Your reputation will only be damaged if you go back on the deal. You should re-clarify your terms with the representative who is buying them.



I probably should not have used the term "proof" in the traditional sense. I should have said "portfolio". I've provided fully edited prints for their selection process and did so for obvious reasons. I even used premium paper, not traditional proofing paper. As far as having "PROOF" written across the front, I feel like that would be a waste of paper, and I trust them. And, unless I was shooting JPEG's or HEIF's, editing a RAW image to less than it's potential, I wouldn't know where to stop. As far as going back on the deal, I had agreed to lower my price and their response was "Great!" And then proceeded to ask if I could split the bill over a few months. I even agreed to that. How far do I need to carry this out? I probably should have included with my "portfolio", some "terms". I will from now on. I appreciate your advice.
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Jan 30, 2024 16:08:09   #
DWU2 wrote:
If you sell them the proofs, make sure they understand that you still hold the copyrights.


Thank you.
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Jan 30, 2024 15:41:18   #
I want advice on what to do here: I've been providing framed prints of my landscape photography to the hospital where I am employed as a nurse. I have done about 36 so far over the past 3 years. All have been the same size: 24"X36" black and white prints on Hahnemühle Photo Rag® Ultra Smooth 305 g matte paper, 4-ply white cotton rag mats, 3½" wide on the top and sides, 5" on the bottom, acid free Foam Cor backing, 1½" flat face black frames, 1⅜" deep, .118" non-glare acrylic glazing, a dust cover and security hardware. I charge $526 plus $20 to hang them. A week ago, they asked for some proofs to choose 3 from. I provided them (50) 9"X12" prints on metallic paper (to better represent the affect of glazing) to choose from. They came back with a request for bulk pricing for 8 with the above dimensions. Since they have been good to me, I took off $100 and the $26 for each of the 8. They agreed and I asked for them to tell me which ones they want. Two days later, (today) they are now asking for a price for just the 8 prints and they want to buy all of the 9X12" proofs. I don't like that. I priced my work on pretty much the high end of what multiple framing sites would charge for everything but the print. I never calculated the print's worth, but it sounds like they want to get them framed cheaper somewhere else. And as far as the proofs go, I have no idea what they want those for. I think I want to refuse to sell them the big prints unframed and if they want the proofs, I want to frame those too.
Any advice on how to handle this without affecting my reputation?
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Oct 28, 2023 20:34:03   #
bobbyjohn wrote:
Few months back, we brought a new 16x20" print to Hobby Lobby to have them mount it on a board and put into an existing frame. They charged $20.00 for that service (since we provided the frame). Likely, if it was just mounting onto the board, it would be somewhat less. They did excellent job. If cost is no object to you, this is a good alternative.


That would be a good idea, but I have too many to do that for it to be financially responsible. Thank you though.
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