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Jun 18, 2014 10:37:12   #
I recently purchased the D7100 in a kit with an 18-140mm lens plus a 55-300mm lens. I have taken some pictures with both lenses and am happy so far. I discovered with the new camera bag that came with the kit that I have to check whether the lens auto-focus switch got moved to manual by accident; I took a couple of shots before realizing things were not quite right.

One odd thing I have noticed is that sometimes after taking a shot and continuing to look through the viewfinder, after a short delay there is a click and the view in the viewfinder visibly shifts off and then back on view. Is this normal? It is as if something in the light path is being adjusted and it make the view get shifted a bit and then it goes back to normal. It seems odd because my D80 never does this. I have to do more picture taking and testing to see if there is some particular combination of lens and settings that make this occur, but it is a bit distracting.
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Apr 29, 2014 17:02:36   #
I know the F-stop is key to understanding how much light gets in, but is there any standardized measure for light intensity received through a lens given a standard intensity coming in? The best lens glass will let more light through and at least theoretically, fewer lens elements could mean more light getting through as well, but not necessarily. We know that two lenses with the same focal length and F-stop may not let in the same amount of light, so how does one know without testing them which one is better for letting in more light? Are the differences between lenses that have the same apertures inconsequential in this regard?
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Apr 29, 2014 09:03:55   #
Your best insurance for your lens is a filter on the end of it. If your filter gets dinged or scratched or chipped, you will be so happy to replace it rather than your lens. As was stated before, you will have more invested in your lenses in the long run than in the camera bodies. I keep my camera hung around my neck to reduce the chance of it dropping. Mistakes happen, but I believe most people will be happy saving the cost of the extended warranty and just pay for a repair in the off chance something bad does happen.

I will have to check into a homeowners rider now though...
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Apr 18, 2014 09:16:54   #
Gitzo wrote:
Quote; I think the 18 he's referring to is the short end of the 18-135 zoom.

I know it is........but on the D 80, (or any crop-frame body), you're not looking at 18-135........you're looking at "effective FL of 27-202 mm

"We" are just responding to what the guy was asking about

(and I use my 12-24 mm WA more than any other lens "usually" ).......but the guy wasn't seeking advice about wide-angles.......he's interested in macro!


I thought that since this zoom lens is a DX lens, the focal length was accurate for my D80 or any other APS-C camera. I was under the impression I needed to do the 1.5X only for full frame lenses. Also, with D7100 being 24M pixels and the D80 being 10M pixels, if I crop a D7100 down to the D80 pixel range that gives me something like 2x more effective focal distance than I'm used to. I really appreciate all the great input I'm receiving here. Going for a used 105mm lens and a good wide-angle zoom sounds perfect for my needs. I have to thank the person who pointed me to UHH last week!

Since I haven't heard any good reasons not to go with the D7100, my original plan, other than waiting a little bit to see what any D7200 shows up with, that is still my plan for my next body. I don't plan to wait past July 1 though as I have a trip planned to Kuala Lumpur in August.
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Apr 17, 2014 20:51:14   #
amehta wrote:
If you are not getting to 1:1, you won't be as close. The longer focal length would also be much better for portraits, and for the same reasons it would be better for "realistic" representations of things like flowers and ebay objects. The 85mm f/3.5 DX is not too much more than the 40mm, given your overall budget.

Once you get a macro lens you really like, you'll be amazed at the pictures it makes you take! ;-)


OK. My experience in using my zoom is that often the 18mm end is still not wide enough for a group picture, so I was thinking it might be better to have something on the mildly wider side, but your experience is very helpful - thanks.
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Apr 17, 2014 18:06:47   #
amehta wrote:
If you give the D80 to one of your kids, the lens would be pretty useful. :-D

The 40mm macro lens has a very short working distance, which freaks out little critters and doesn't leave much room to get light in. I think a macro lens in the 85-105mm range is much more useful.


That is interesting. I can't say that I have taken shots of live things for macro lens closeness - only still life or inanimate objects. Flowers and eBay objects for my wife mostly. I do appreciate that a longer focal length would be better for some things and I have used my zoom to that advantage in the past.
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Apr 17, 2014 17:41:10   #
amehta wrote:
You just answered why the basic "2-lens kit" is the 18-55mm and 55-200mm. :-)

I wouldn't be scared of changing lenses, just be careful when you do and learn to clean your sensor if dust spots start to be a problem. I think this distribution indicates that your current lens will still serve your needs. Now, pay attention to the times you want something different, either wider, longer, or closer, and if one of those happens 3-5 times, get the appropriate lens. Each of the three lenses (Nikon AF 105mm f/2.8D, Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8 DX-II, Nikon 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G VR) are $500-600, so if you only get the camera now, you still have money budgeted for at least two of the lenses.
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Given that my current lens covers most needs, but not macro, I'm looking mostly at a macro lens. On the nikonusa.com site I note an interesting lens: AF-S DX Micro-NIKKOR 40mm f/2.8G for $280 seems worth taking a look at. The real reason I would look for a replacement zoom (18-300mm) is if I decide to sell my D80 or give it to one of my kids, I would include the 18-135mm with it.
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Apr 16, 2014 00:31:00   #
amehta wrote:
I don't know about it specifically, but it scores worse than your Nikon 18-135mm.

You might want to look at the pictures you have taken, like what Toolking did, and see if you are shooting a lot at the telephoto end, and how often you are shooting both wide and telephoto in one setting. Changing lenses isn't the worst thing in the world, so getting a telephoto zoom instead of a superzoom could make more sense.

My recommendation is still to not get any lenses right now, get either the D7100 or a refurbished D7000, and start shooting. See where your interests take you, and then decide on the next lenses (macro, ultra wide angle, telephoto, or superzoom).
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OK, I did a random sample of my pictures since 2006 and I find many are of people not far away, so the focal length is less. He is my rough breakout:
18-49mm : 50%
50-69mm : 20%
70-99mm : 15%
100-135mm: 15%
I also see that I tend to shoot with Aperture Priority - If the speed is 1/15 or faster, I can take the shot with little chance of blur; otherwise I adjust the aperture to let in more light. This is a hold over from my old film camera days. If its dark, I up the ISO to help improve the speed. Interesting what you find out by looking at your collection of pictures.

Since the sensor cleaning is not so great, should I be hesitant to change lenses? This was the main reason I stayed with the zoom lens on all the time. If it isn't that big a deal (just try to avoid dirt getting in while changing), then I'm more open to having a few lenses for different tasks. I may still end up with the long zoom on for most of the time.
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Apr 15, 2014 16:08:41   #
amehta wrote:
With lenses, more elements is usually considered better, though that's somewhat arbitrary. :-)
The new lens is very new, and I don't have a good sense of how good it is compared to the old one.

The main reason I would suggest waiting is that getting the new camera may get you more excited about photography, in which case a better lens would be good. On the other hand, you could feel, "ho, hum, I'm taking the same pictures", and then your lens choice would stay with the super zooms.
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Any idea if the Sygma 18-250mm f3.5-6.3 is worth considering? The only reason I ask is I have a relative that works for them and I may be able to get a discount. I see it is currently on sale $200 off for $349. I had a Sygma lens in the past and it seemed fine for what I was doing.
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Apr 15, 2014 13:18:00   #
amehta wrote:
The D7100 with the 18-300mm lens does not seem to be saving you anything, since the kits are around $2150 (Amazon or Best Buy), the D7100 is $1150, and the 18-300mm f/3.5-5.6 is $1000 both at B&H or Adorama. Nikon has just released the newer 18-300mm f/3.5-6.3 for $900, and there are a few other options also. You can get the D7100, use it with your 18-135mm lens, and update your lens as a different decision.


I see the newer zoom at $900. Any idea which version is better to own? The newer one has fewer elements and so is lighter and smaller, so if it takes as good images, it would seem the better choice. Fewer parts implies it could be more reliable, assuming comparable quality on the included elements.
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Apr 15, 2014 10:35:18   #
Gitzo wrote:
I've found from long experience that suggesting a new camera to some you don't know well is very likely to be an impossible task; Nikon models vary greatly, but Nikon user vary a whole lot more "greatly"!

The D 7100 is indeed an excellent choice, (and an excellent body ), but it may or may not be the best choice for everyone. The reason I say that;

I'm a firm believer in getting the absolute "most camera" for the "fewest bucks"; in order to accomplish that objective, (unless of course you're very wealthy or maybe recent hit the lottery", the one thing Im recommend you DON'T do, is to buy a camera model thet "just came out"!
(Any pros reading this are already lining up their rocks to throw! ) Fact; almost everything that's "high tech" depreciates rapidly; and ALL new digital cameras depreciate more rapidly than just about anything else.

They're probably the best example of the law of "supply & demand" than anything I can think of; sure, every "new" camera has a few "bells and whistles" that the preceding model lacked; but you pay dearly for those things, and unless you're a working pro, you really may not even need them, and quite possibly, you may never even use them.

You'll notice something about almost ALL amateur photographers; what every camera model they own and use, it's the absolute BEST camera "out there"! I think a much better way to look at it, is to think about "best pictures", instead of "best cameras". Let's face it......they may not admit it, but almost all amateurs are more "hardware" freaks, than they are "picture freaks"......there's just "something about it", being out taking pictures with your brand new "latest & greatest" camera; actually, there is something better; (having the BEST PICTURES in your Flickr account, (or where ever you keep them ).

For the average, "non-rich" amateur, I think it's a big mistake to "drool" over full-frame bodies; sure that bigger sensor has more area, get's "sharper" images, etc etc, etc. It also needs more expensive lenses, and if you spring for a new D-800 (with 36 MP sensor, those "tack sharp" images also create file sizes as big as Ohio, so you better have one hell of a computer to work with them, and some pretty pricey memory cards!

Here's a great idea; wait for Nikon to bring out their new D 7200 (or what ever they call it ); as soon as it's out. the D 7100 will go DOWN in price; BUY one then! Almost no one starts taking better pictures after just buying a better camera; (the greatest pictures are always taken by the greatest photographers. )

Here's even a more important idea; what ever body you end up with, until you know everything about it, and how to use the thing to it's max, you're gonna be well into the next decade if you have to depend on the manual that come with the new camera; get on Amazon of Half com and buy one of David Busch's manuals for that body; that will accelerate your progress with the new camera faster than anything else. I can't explain in a post why this is so, but trust me, it IS "so"! (I paid $40 for one of Thom Hogans GREAT manuals, thought it was great, lost the damned thing, then paid about $25 or $30 for David Busch'e manual; (if I ever find Hogans manual, i'll probably throw Thom Hogan's manual away now! ) Busch not only explains 10 times as much "stuff", but her explains things more clearly than anyone else I've ever seen.
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Wow, those are some great recommendations. I agree it helps to buy a book specific to your model and I did that with my D80 (can't recall the author while I'm at work though). I am fine with DX cameras. Waiting until the D7200 comes out is a good idea - as long as I don't see some feature in it that peaks my interest.

I paid ~$1400 for my D80 kit with the 18-135mm lens back in 2006 just a couple of months after it came out. I don't want to throw money away, but I appreciate low light/noise capability because it seems I'm often taking indoor shots where flash is not allowed or is not preferred and my hands aren't as steady as they used to be, so I need 1/15 shutter speed or faster to prevent blur. Good autofocus is key these days because I can't rely on my eyes for manual focus (I miss the edge focus help from my old film SLR).

Since I'm looking at a new body, this is a good time to look at a new lens as well. I was so afraid of the no sensor cleaning aspect of the D80 that I have never taken off my lens since I put it on in November 2006. The newer bodies had some form of sensor cleaning built in, so I'm less concerned with changing lenses (something I did all the time with my film SLR). I'd like to be sure I get a good lens with the body and if someone thinks I would be better getting a smaller range zoom (e.g. 70-300mm) rather than the 18-300mm, I may listen to that. I haven't found many times where my zoom at 18mm is not wide enough for a shot, but it has happened, so having something for a wider shot and macro is also on my list. My price range is ~$2000 +/- $500. I want something that lasts at least as long as my D80 has - 8+ years.
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Apr 15, 2014 09:54:59   #
lhbpe wrote:
I also have had a D80 for a number of years. Recently mine would give an error message periodically, then every other picture, and finally would not take a picture at all. When it was doing it intermittently, actuating the shutter would not take a picture but would recycle the system and the next shutter release would take a normal picture. When it failed "permanently" I sent it to Nikon and they cleaned the contacts between body and lens, gave the camera a good cleaning and checked and adjusted all the settings. My camera works just like new now and I am very happy. Cost was just over $100, a lot less than buying a new camera. You might want to try that first.
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I will definitely look to get my D80 cleaned up given the minor costs you suggest, but I'm reluctant to be without a camera; I'll send it in after I have my new camera in hand. Thanks!
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Apr 15, 2014 09:52:00   #
I've noticed that the kits don't add a lot, but some include a second battery and a fairly decent Nikon carry bag (similar to the one I have now) and save a few dollars. Now I will think more about buying these separately. Thanks.
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Apr 15, 2014 01:32:54   #
Wow, thanks for all the nice suggestions. I appreciate you all taking the time to help me out. I did consider the D90, but I would prefer to get a camera that is a little newer. If my D80 would stop refusing to take a shot, I would be willing to wait longer for a replacement. I do like that the D90 takes the same battery as my D80. I have been happy with two batteries and have never run out of power.
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Apr 14, 2014 23:51:39   #
I like my Nikon D80, but it is beginning to refuse to take shots without being rebooted or at least turned of and back on, so I'm looking proactively for a replacement. I like the feel of the d80 camera body in my hands - I have somewhat large hands and fingers - and I would like the replacement to have a similar feel. Sensitivity to low light would be good. I'm leaning towards the D7100 or its follow-on if it shows up soon. It isn't available in any local stores for me to try out, which is unfortunate. I have only one DX lens that seems to have worked well for me - 18-135mm. I'm thinking of getting a kit with the D7100 and the DX 18-300mm lens. I would also like to get a macro lens for closeups. I also have the SB-800 flash unit.
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