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Jul 31, 2012 01:23:26   #
If you haven't received an answer yet, PM means "Private Message" . Makes it easier for a couple of people to exchange info and files instead of going through the forums sometimes.
Snecko wrote:
Please excuse my ignorance but what is PM?
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Jan 18, 2012 01:28:29   #
Lucian wrote:
Just go to home depot and buy a length of picture rail wood and fasten it to the wall high up. Then get some picture rail hooks and you can add as many photos as you want along it and even hang some above each other if on a stairs. You hag the wire down from the hooks and attach it to the frames at what ever height you wish.

Thats how they hang all the huge paintings in the stately homes in Britain. That's what we have done in our hosue because we have a stone wall. It is a lot easier to hang one picture rail and then never have to drill through stone again and be able to move the pictures around and have different size frames when ever we wish, with out ever having to drill another hole in the wall or fill a hole from an old hanging.
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Make sure to use a level when hanging the picture rail on the wall!
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Dec 30, 2011 11:08:30   #
rcrosby825 wrote:
I have an 8GB Sandisk card in my Sony 500.
After a days shoot I save my shots to iPhoto and Picasa then to an external harddrive as back-up. Once I'm sure everything is safe in a couple of other places, I clear the card and get ready for the next day.
Is this a good practice, or will the quality of my pictures eventually go down as the age of the card increases?
Put another way, should I treat my sdhc cards as another backup medium and not try to "re-use" them until a problem arises?
Hope this makes sense.
Any and all comments greatly appreciated.
Rob
I have an 8GB Sandisk card in my Sony 500. br Afte... (show quote)

I did save one Sandisk SD card labeled and in a safe place even after backing it up several times on computer and external drive and media. I saved that particular SD card because it was entirely of an important visit and speech of an important POTUS that could possibly be worth some money to someone
(maybe my kids?) someday.
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Nov 20, 2011 15:18:10   #
I agree with drobbia and georgevedwards. :thumbup:
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Nov 19, 2011 09:14:56   #
BBNC wrote:
Art cannot be defined. If it could, then creating art would just become a process following a specific set of rules. Art is whatever your mind says it is, art critics notwithstanding.

In my mind, I see a fire waiting to happen.


I agree, Art cannot cannot be defined. And wait no longer, the fire has happened in this forum. :)
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Nov 18, 2011 23:45:19   #
Silver said"
OK, First of all you posted the conditions, not me. In your way of thinking nothing can become art unless it makes an important statement and it shows a mastery of a medium. I totally disagree. Who is to say what is art? What one person considers art is another's trash. We place too much importance on the conditions of art. Art has no conditions. If I took photographs of dog poo that I find on piles all over the city and I do a definitive study of them and create an exhibition of photographic prints and I think that they are important then they are important even if they are only important to me and nobody has the right to say otherwise. How do you define art. You are getting into philosophical definitions of art and you cant define art that way. When Robert Maplethorp exhibited his homoerotic images the critics went into an uproar about them. Who is to say what is art and why does there have to be conditions? Of course there is no technical wizardry involved, does there have to be a technical accomplishment for something to be art? Maybe we have to re define art for arts sake. Since when does art involve skill? Have you ever watched a child do finger painting and the wonder of the beginnings of the creative process? Yes there are people that are very skilled at what process they use but does that make them a great artist? Is skill what art is based on? I think that this whole thing is totally being blown out of proportions.[/quote]

I agree! Thanks, Silver... :thumbup:
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Nov 18, 2011 13:25:31   #
silver wrote:
Richard94611 wrote:
I certainly agree that the artist must have been thinking. In judging a piece of art, however, I seem to be stuck on standards elicited by a 19th-century literary critic -- Saint Beuve, I think -- which I have always remembered, despite the fact that my recollection of its attribution may be incorrect. Whoever this critic may have been, he had three considerations he found useful in judging the value of any work of art. They are:

1) What was the artist attempting to do ?
2) How difficult was it to do this ?
3) Was it worth doing ?

Perhaps (1) is make a statement about the impermanence of cell-phone photos. (2) Doesn't seem to me to be at all difficult. All that is necessary is a shovel and several hours of scooping. (People do this in horse stalls all the time, expressing their conviction and making the "statement" that a horse stall should be clean.) And (3) If a statement that cell-phone photos of whatever they are are impermanent is a deep philosophical observation, it has been made about art many, many times before. I would be more inclined to see value in a statement that revealed something new that we all (especially in this forum) didn't realize.

As for the technical wizardry and skill used in making a photograph itself of all these discarded photos, I don't see any.

But you know what ? Perhaps my contention that this isn't art and isn't worth anything is undermined by the fact that the artist certainly has caught our attention and made us think and express ourselves. Interesting paradox.

But I stick with my view that worthwhile art necessarily involves skill in the media in which one is working. This heap of photos was all too easy.
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1-What was the artist attempting to do? Answer- make a statement about society.
2- How difficult was this to do? Answer-Not very because there is so much garbage created by society.
3- Was it worth doing? Answer- Is thinking worth doing? Is making a statement worth doing? Is creating something that makes us think worth doing? I rest my case.
quote=Richard94611 I certainly agree that the art... (show quote)


I agree with Silver

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Nov 18, 2011 13:23:00   #
Jenni8 wrote:
Well I think its an interesting statement. Because that is what it is, an artistic statement. Instead of this person just blogging his thoughts on the insane amount of photos posted on the internet, he created something, well, not very pretty, on purpose.

It's not so different than the immense amount of general information on the internet. Its hard to know what is real or just made up anymore without digging up the resources.

In the same sense, thats true with photography. This person sees all theses countless pictures as trash and piled it up as such.

It's not pretty of course, but this person wanted to create a 'reaction' and obviously he succeeded in this, as this topic proves that, and I'm sure their are many others out their commenting on it just the same as we all are.
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Nov 18, 2011 13:21:47   #
Thank You Silver! I accidentally gave English_Wolf credit for your words. I agree with YOUR take on it, not English_Wolf's.
silver wrote:
English_Wolf wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-15756616


Wolf, I love your snapshot picture, its really funny. Last christmas I did a x country trip with my son. On our way back we were driving through Texas and we decided to stop at the Cadillac Ranch outside of Amarillo where there are 10, I think, old cadillac's buried nose down in a field. People are encouraged to bring cans of spray paint and do whatever they want on the cars. When you approach this installation there are cans of usable spray paint all over the place and there is always somebody spraying the cars. Its an interesting project. Nobody oversees this and whatever happens happens. It is truly a living art project in constant transition. I find installations like this to be very interesting because they are never finished. These types of installations are very interesting comments about both art and human nature. The photography installation does the same thing. Its making a comment and it is constantly changing. Who cares where the photos came from, the artist has done something interesting and has also made it a living entity. There is more then one kind of art and frankly I would love to be a part of a living art installation. This is a really creative and interesting comment that the artist has made. This installation is a reflection and it makes people think. Any day that somebody can make me think is a good day. I dont have to agree or disagree but I still appreciate the fact that thinking is a good thing. I really like this type of art.
quote=English_Wolf http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/ente... (show quote)
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Nov 18, 2011 13:10:55   #
silver wrote:
Richard94611 wrote:
I have this old-fashioned opinion that art necessarily involves skill and discipline, which this piece of work seems to me not to. I am not talking here about the photo of the heap of discarded pictures. I am talking about the assemblage of these picture itself. Does anyone here see evidence that skill and discipline were involved in producing this "work" ? Oh, well, my standards must have been warped by attending art school.


Hello, The one thing to consider here is the fact that this person has an opinion, he is thinking. There was a choice made as to how to make a statement. At least the piece has been created and there is an explaination by the artist and it was not done lightly. The artist is making a comment and for this he should be applauded.
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Nov 18, 2011 13:07:06   #
Sensei wrote:
"Art is the product or process of deliberately arranging items (often with symbolic significance) in a way that influences and affects one or more of the senses, emotions, and intellect."
Generally it communicates or arouses thought or emotion. It can be something we like or dislike. We all agree , it is shit. I guess by definition it is arousing emotion and is therefore art.


I only agree with the words in quotation marks. We don't ALL agree on the value of that artist's installation.
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Nov 18, 2011 10:11:59   #
Thanks, English_Wolf, my sentiments exactly. You put it very well. :)
silver wrote:
English_Wolf wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-15756616


Wolf, I love your snapshot picture, its really funny. Last christmas I did a x country trip with my son. On our way back we were driving through Texas and we decided to stop at the Cadillac Ranch outside of Amarillo where there are 10, I think, old cadillac's buried nose down in a field. People are encouraged to bring cans of spray paint and do whatever they want on the cars. When you approach this installation there are cans of usable spray paint all over the place and there is always somebody spraying the cars. Its an interesting project. Nobody oversees this and whatever happens happens. It is truly a living art project in constant transition. I find installations like this to be very interesting because they are never finished. These types of installations are very interesting comments about both art and human nature. The photography installation does the same thing. Its making a comment and it is constantly changing. Who cares where the photos came from, the artist has done something interesting and has also made it a living entity. There is more then one kind of art and frankly I would love to be a part of a living art installation. This is a really creative and interesting comment that the artist has made. This installation is a reflection and it makes people think. Any day that somebody can make me think is a good day. I dont have to agree or disagree but I still appreciate the fact that thinking is a good thing. I really like this type of art.
quote=English_Wolf http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/ente... (show quote)


:D :)
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Nov 17, 2011 11:26:01   #
I like it very much. The photographs aren't hung on the wall as expected; it's an installation. Visitors walk through the images and are encouraged to pick them up. It's about how we are bombarded with images everyday. Read his statement. It's very clever. Terrific way to use photography and also make a point about our throwaway culture, our lack of privacy, and how in a sense we stop really seeing things because we see so much images everyday. Art, like photography, isn't about the ability to reproduce an image that looks exactly like its subject matter. It is also about giving the viewer pause for thought.
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Nov 14, 2011 10:16:37   #
john339 wrote:
I read this quote somewhere.
"I took a nice photo and showed it to my boss and he said you must have a great camera.
Later he invited me to dinner and he prepared a very nice meal.
As I was leaving I said "that was a wonderful meal, you must have a great oven."


Love it! :)
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Nov 13, 2011 09:39:44   #
I had a friend who used a Nikon film camera, not terribly fancy, but she still took wonderful pictures even though it set auto exposure and I think the focus for her. She was disabled and unable to turn lens to focus. She would get so mad when people would marvel at her photos and say "You must have a great camera!". Maybe most people just don't realize how much goes into composition and subject selection.
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