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Sep 3, 2013 09:05:15   #
MT Shooter wrote:
Just wait long enough and Canon will do that for you, they already have twice in their history. Anyone remember the FD mount still? Oh, and lest we forget the consequences of going up to a full frame and not being able to use any of your nice EFS lenses anymore! Thanks Canon.......yeah, right!


Nikon's mount itself may be universal, but lens functionality is not, so Nikon legacy lenses are not without their own limitations.

....and what would be the point of using a DX lens on an FX body?
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Sep 3, 2013 07:38:17   #
Abbeylayne wrote:
I was thinking that since halogen is supposed to mimic daylight, that maybe that's what I should set the WB to? Maybe the incandescent setting is affecting the color problem? Thanks for helping.


Halogen is very different to daylight... http://www.lumicrest.com/images/color-temp-chart.jpg So go with the "halogen" WB setting, as it will be the closest.

However for most accurate WB (for JPEG images), you could get a grey card to set a Custom White Balance.... or you could simply shoot RAW and set WB in post production.
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Sep 3, 2013 03:34:41   #
We have both systems here and I have to say (with the exception of an ultra wide zoom) that the current crop of Canon glass offers a better range and better quality than the Nikon's.
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Sep 2, 2013 23:24:19   #
FredB wrote:
Jewelry is not very "deep", you don't normally shoot a necklace front to back, you shoot it top to bottom, and the "depth" is what - maybe 1/4"? You don't want a wide, or deep, area of focus. You want just the opposite - a very narrow depth of field, with just the jewelry in focus. Go as low as you can - f/4 or lower. You will have to be careful, because the lower the f/ number (wide open aperture) the NARROWER the area that is in focus. But you do NOT need f/16 or numbers like that for jewelry.
Jewelry is not very "deep", you don't no... (show quote)


Fred the amount of DoF required is totally dependent on composition. Necklaces for example are not always photographed in a hanging position, either around someones neck or otherwise.

Often they will be draped over a prop and / or have their length artistically curving off into the background etc. In these cases, depending of the artist's choice of composition, greater DOF from smaller apertures (like f16) may well be required.

Plus, when working at the high magnifications required for small detailed subjects like jewellery, DoF naturally becomes extremely thin and even stopping down provides quite limited DoF.

So the use of smaller apertures most definitely has it place with jewellery, as evidenced in the images above. These were shot at f16 and clearly the DoF is still very thin.
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Sep 2, 2013 23:05:38   #
Abbeylayne wrote:
Ok, so if I have a high ISO and a moderate shutter speed and its still too dark, than I need to have a larger aperture? But then I've read that close ups need a smaller aperture for depth of field? Does the fact that I didn't have the lens on macro have any bearing? Arrggg. I'm going in circles.


Not having the lens on macro, may have limited your closest focus distance and therefore not allowed you to get in close and have the product as big in frame as it would have otherwise been.
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Sep 2, 2013 21:03:43   #
Abbeylayne wrote:
I was shooting in manual and I know I had handshake (tripod is on order) but I should be shooting in 1/600th? Wouldn't that shut down my light? Please don't think I'm questioning your knowledge but I don't want to just blindly do what someone tells me, I really want to understand WHY I'm doing it and that can be hard to convey whilst writing
:-)


Sorry, my point was just that using a 300mm handheld at the shutter speed you listed, will result in image blur due to movement.

Once you are on a tripod, the blur issue (due to camera movement) is eliminated and slower shutter speeds will be workable.
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Sep 2, 2013 20:06:25   #
Abbeylayne wrote:
Ok...but why would the histogram read in the proper areas if I'm under exposed? And do I fix this with the exposure compensation? For some reason I have it set for -4.


The camera thinks it's right with reference to 18% grey and will replicate this in the histogram. The reality however, is that your image contains a lot of white and the "correct" histogram should be heavily weighted to the right.

You can use exposure compensation, but I would recommend shooting in manual exposure mode. Once you arrive at the correct exposure, you will then be able to swap out pieces without effecting the result from shot to shot.
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Sep 2, 2013 19:34:15   #
Abbeylayne wrote:
The whole thing
300mm
The what?? In where??
No
Not very well ( handheld)
Yes, ummmm, spotlight bulbs? As in for a outdoor floodlight, halogen!


300mm Handheld... You would need to shooting a shutter speed of 1/600th at the very least to help minimise handshake at this focal length.

You should also be using a tripod for such minimal DoF images, as slight body movements back and forward are enough to make you totally miss your focus.

Also, once you are on a tripod switch to shooting manual focus using your live view if your camera has it, as this will allow you to get focus exactly where you want it. Camera AF on small objects will not aways focus on what you intend it to focus on.

Camera AF is also not designed to pin-point specs, instead they tend to have an "area of focus", so again, manual focusing while on a tripod is the only way to effectively focus each and every time.

Also, f16 may well be softening your images as diffraction comes into play... experiment with f8 and f11 and see if they are sharper. Often the diffraction with small apertures can more than ruin any gains in DoF that they technically provide.

Colour Balance: Different light sources are different in colour to a camera, even though they can look the same to us. So using the correct WB for JPG is a must (RAW however you can set in post production) and it looks like you have already sorted this one.
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Sep 2, 2013 19:18:59   #
Abbeylayne wrote:
Here are two more I shot today. The colors in the piece are right but I don't understand why the background is grey. It really is a white sheet.


Because the image is underexposed. In basic terms, cameras calculate exposure by mixing up everything it sees and relating that to 18% Grey, as 18% grey just happens to be the mix that works.

But, the camera doesn't know that your subject is predominantly white... so you have to compensate for this and use more exposure.
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Aug 31, 2013 22:49:01   #
SharpShooter wrote:
Wow, Abbey, I had not looked at your post for a few pages. By the time you're done with this, you are going to be a pro. It's getting really elaborate.
Your existing equipment is fine. all you need is a way to light your product without shadows or glare(aka, specular highlights).
Let's go back to the start.
Build a PVC cage, and wrap it with a white sheet. From home depot, get some of those clip-on work lights(3 of them)and clip them to the frame. You want fairly even light coming through the sheet. Use 100w bulbs and set your camera to tungsten white balance. Get a piece of black velvet or similar. Real velvet is made of silk and very expensive, but has the least refective properties. Go to Goodwill, with luck they have a worn out velvet dress for cheap.
Set your piece up vertical and shoot straight at it, without tilting the camera. This negates using a T/S lens. Get as close as you can with your shortest/closest setting(70mm?).
Take your shot at about f8 on ISO 100-200. Set the speed according to your camera meter. Use full manual. Focus could be manual or auto if it will lock focus. A tripod is better, but you could prop the camera on a box or stack of books(adjustable). Lay a bag of rice or beans on it to hold it steady. Use your self-timer to avoid shake. If you get reflections in the lens, block them with pieces of cardboard bent into L's so they will stand up.
Abbey, this will work fine. It may not be perfect, but very little ever is. If it were, photoshop would not be more popular than cameras.
Stacking programs cost more than a new lens, as does photoshop and I don't think PS Elements will stack.
There is one thing about studio work, the basics are super simple. It sounds easy because it is. Once you get the hang of it, it's easy.
Your not trying to be Avedon.
I'm glad to help if I can.
Good luck. SS
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Helicon Focus Pro - Unlimited license for $200 Not many Macro or Tilt Shift lenses are cheaper than that. (Lite is only $115)

Shooting flat to negate the need of a macro adapted Tilt-Shift? ... well yes that would work, but it comes at the cost of severely limiting compositional choices.

Personally, I would think stacking is the best option for these images, as it allows freedom of composition and gives infinite control over DoF... this control also extends into post, as DOF is a simple matter of how many images you wish to stack.

It's almost like using a Lytro Light Field Camera... as you can select the point of focus after the fact.
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Aug 31, 2013 22:34:29   #
boncrayon wrote:
That's exactly my point....why judge the beholder and hold him/her to your professional judgment, but that the beholder experiments and enjoys the world around him/her. A professional, like yourself should encourage a freedom of sight expression of the "frame" and not rely on professionalism in assuming each shot will be a perfection landscape. Your equipment and choice is far beyond the "box camera" view of the Ansell Adams for the frame grab. I am no professional, but pull an occasional frame I can bend in Photoshop as needed. High megapixels are great for the billboard or the ultimate museum showing...that's your profession! The question was if his camera good enough for a great picture. I think the frame capture is interesting enough rather than the multiple professional considered elements that made it.
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As I said "Horses for courses of course"... but IMO when someone asks for advice, it is much better to advise of the best standard possible and let them work backwards to their level of acceptance, comfort & intended image use.

So say that equipment is not that important & it's what you like that matters doesn't inform them of what is possible and therefore they cannot realistically make an informed decision. In fact, they may well end up with equipment that is incapable of achieving what they are after.

It's like saying "it's the driver that wins the race the car doesn't matter" and offering a choice of a Mini or a Ferrari... Yes the Ferrari may be more than they need, but at least it offers the driver the chance of driving to their maximum potential... a potential that may well be far above the maximum performance that the Mini could ever offer them.
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Aug 31, 2013 21:59:26   #
Ugly Jake wrote:
I don't know about anyone else, but when I'm looking for a "wall hanger", I'm on a tripod, on remote, in the sweet spot of the lens, focused to the eyeteeth, and still shoot exposure bracket, just in case. This does not fit the OP's request for a travel camera, IMO. The bridge cameras are fast,light, and versatile. I recommend the SX 50


Horses for courses of course.... but what I am saying, is that the old "it's not the camera, it's the photographer" kind of reasoning (that we see so often) only holds up to a point.

Even Ansel Adams couldn't meet his regular standard if the camera used was simply not up to the task.

And yes the OP did mention travel, but the OP also mentioned architecture. IMO the two don't exactly share much common ground.
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Aug 31, 2013 21:38:11   #
Abbeylayne wrote:
Whoa! That lens will be on my wish list for a while..... However, the extension tubes look like they would be a real advantage. Any pointers on what to look for when purchasing?
Stacking also looks to be advantageous (and just plain cool!) However, since I've never really photographed much I've also never used editing software and would need recommendations on what to start with, please.


With extension tubes, make sure that you get "automatic" ones that contain the electronics so that the lens & camera can still talk. The Camera manufacturers always make their own, but there are some cheaper versions out there if you google for reviews. (Try and stick to metal... cheap plastic ones can flex under the load of a heavy lens.)

Photoshop is pretty much the industry standard, but expensive.

Photoshop Elements is a cut down consumer version at a much more realistic price and a good place to start. It is still very powerful and because it's like the full version in terms of operation, there won't be a new learning curve if you ever wish to upgrade.

As for Stacking http://www.heliconsoft.com/heliconsoft-products/helicon-focus/ is the one linked on that page.
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Aug 31, 2013 20:51:58   #
Abbeylayne wrote:
Hiya!
I'm so new to photography that my ears are not only wet, they are dripping! I need some advice desperately!
I very recently purchased a Nikon D3100 and a Sigma 70-300mm F4-5.6 DG macro lense. My goal is to take detailed pictures of handcrafted jewelry to be submitted to judges for shows and uploaded onto a website. Problem is, I'm not sure I purchased the correct camera for the job, (I can still exchange or return it) but that could just be my inexperience. I've taken decent close ups of sections of a piece but cannot figure out how to get detailed shots of the whole object, e.g. a necklace. Plus, the "good" pictures I've managed we're all taken using Live View which is not an option that can be chosen permanently on my camera. I'm also having lighting issues with both, but so far the Nikon pictures are not much better than the ones I took from my iPad. This is not how it should be, I'm sure.
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To gain detail you need more Depth of Field and as others have suggested stopping down to the likes of f16 will help.

This however may still not be enough when working with such small objects, plus diffraction will often come into play with small apertures and blur your image :(

I would suggest that something like a 90mm Tilt-Shift lens and a set of extension tubes would be more suited to the task, as this will allow you to control the plane of focus and lay it along the jewellery's surface for sharp images.

Alternatively, use the lens you have but at it's sharpest aperture (regardless of the narrow DoF it may create) and then focus stack multiple images to build a sharp image overall.

See: http://www.australianlight.com.au/blog/post/focus_stacking/
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Aug 31, 2013 20:39:52   #
boncrayon wrote:
It's what the beholder sees...not what the camera sees. The best photo is in the eyes of the beholder and those who marvel at a site or landscape they have not seen before. Your Nikon will do just fine. As for the eyes of the critic with bigger, more expensive cameras, etc...they will judge the content, lighting and charm of the shot. Yours will be just fine...take multiple frames and choose the best.



Only to a point... after that the beholder will find it difficult to avoid the technical flaws that a technically flawed camera leaves.

So yes, if you only ever plan to display on web and print relatively small all good.... but if you plan to hang large landscapes on the wall, then and image's artistic composition & the emotion it conveys will only carry it so far for many. :(
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