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Jul 6, 2017 06:47:53   #
CHOLLY wrote:
.... I also want to add, that once again, I would be using my A mount glass on any potential A9 camera... which as you said, would make frame rate almost equal with the A99II.
Cholly, you have to remember that Minolta lenses were specced to work at relatively low frame rates due to the spring return on the aperture lever. You could shoot wide open with no problem and maybe one stop down but unless the a9 takes that in to account and can hold the aperture open whilst the electronic shutter does it's bit,, well??? TBH, frame rates don't bother me, I rarely if ever use other than single frame advance.
CHOLLY wrote:
Peek, like you, I have a LOT of A mount glass; Minolta, Sony, Sony G, Sony Zeiss and Minolta G. I don't know if I would be willing to toss it all and start up an E mount collection just to have Native lenses on an A7XX or A9 body. So for now, the A99II has the edge, even though the features of the A9 make it VERY tempting....
Me neither which is why I'm still on the fence using the a7rM2 and the a99M2 for what they each do best.
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Jul 5, 2017 11:02:58   #
CHOLLY wrote:
Bebu, I am in pre-retirement so the days of buying gear on credit are over. That means the wife and I are using cash for major outlays and that means we have to save for purchases above a certain amount. While I plan to purchase the A99II in the VERY near future, the A9 is not only impressive... but TEMPTING as well.
I feel your pain, I'm retired (long time retired) and on a fixed income which has suffered in recent years; still, I'm not complaining, plenty worse off than me.
CHOLLY wrote:
Because when I DO retire, I plan to spend a LARGE percentage of my time pursing my passion; wildlife photography. And while the A99II is EXTREMELY capable and competent for that purpose, I think the A9 would be better in every respect EXCEPT resolution.

So the A9 has NOT been ruled out... in fact, I am actually taking a long hard look at it.
Not sure I'd agree Cholly. The a99M2 is a very capable camera and it does have 42Mpix which is very useful when it comes to cropping, you could say it's a crop camera on steroids. The silent shutter would certainly be very useful and the AF speed is probably close to the a99M2, not sure but 24MPix??? I'm sure there will be a replacent a7rM* which will fit the bill.

Blue Heron, a99M2 with Minolta 28-135/4 .......


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Jul 5, 2017 10:42:51   #
BebuLamar wrote:
So you're like me that you're impressed. The A9 is a great camera but you wouldn't buy one. I wouldn't buy one either. I haven't seen in the entire thread that someone said that they will buy one. Did I miss something?
The camera is targeted at a specific market and at a pretty high price point. I don't fit the target market so I'll stick with the a7rM2 and the a99M2 for now. I'm sure there will be another camera which will fit in with my requirements.
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Jul 5, 2017 06:19:25   #
mwsilvers wrote:
..... The A9 may be a very special camera, but it's physical size is a significant limitation for me. The grip area, like other similar SONY bodies is just too small for my liking, and the smaller body size limits the real estate for various controls, both fixed and configurable. I found with my minimal experience with the A7r II that I didn't like the balance with larger lenses and never quite got used to the viewfinder in the short time I used it. For those that don't have those issues, the A9 might be a great choice.
..... The A9 may be a very special camera, but it'... (show quote)
A perfectly acceptable position even if from limited experience. I use the a7rM2, primarily for Landscape/Portrait work and honestly don't find the small size to be limiting, rather advantageous in fact.

Neither do I find the lack of "real estate" to be a problem with the controls. The usual two control wheels plus dedicated Exp.comp and a control dial, 14 buttons 12 of which are customisable with 34 options, plus the QuickNavi menu comprising 12 slots with 34 possible functions. I can't say I've ever found myself wishing for more buttons. Of course, I've long been using Sony cameras and Minolta before them so I'm used to how things work and there is no doubt that it's different so I can see why CaNikon users find it incomprehensible. I have the same problem when a junior club member asks for help with their CaNikons, I am totally at sea with the camera operation.

I'm not claiming that the camera is without fault, we're going through a development process with e-mount and each generation improves on the last which is as it should be. What I do claim is that any faults are far outweighed by the advantages and IMO, the camera (a7rM2) cannot be bettered by any opposition camera for Landscape/Portrait use. I'm talking functionality here not IQ, any modern FF camera is very capably of excellent IQ, I see it all the time in the work of hundreds of members of the WCPS (local federation). I do think we Sony users have the edge in IQ with these latest sensors but it's really not a big deal so far.

When it comes to "lack of balance" with large lenses I just don't get it. I support large lenses (well any lens) with my left hand while the right one handles camera control (I do the same with a DSLR). Supporting with the left hand and from the centre of balance seems natural to me so I've never found a handling problem with smaller cameras. I do like the bigger grip on the latest camera but not for "supportive" reasons.

Really big lenses (300/2.8) go on the a99M2; one because they are A-mount and two because the a99M2 is PDAF and more suitable for Aircraft/Sport/Wildlife although it looks like the a9 puts a different handle on things. If the a9 is as fast to focus as reports suggest and the tech arrives in the A7rM*, maybe the a99M2 will become superfluous. We shall see.
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Jul 4, 2017 18:18:23   #
chaman wrote:
Where anyone said it was a sensor issue? Not me. It was your boyfriend who started throwing the "troll" insult around to anyone who had a different opinion. But you like to wrestle that pig, right? The banding is THERE. Its not the sensor maybe BUT its there. Nothing insecure and the argument stays where it was from the beginning. The banding appears under some conditions and can ruin a photo. Live with it. Im sorry you dont have the brain power to get that.

You know what the last result for specimens like you is......trying desperately to sound knowledgable, but obviously failing every time.
Where anyone said it was a sensor issue? Not me. I... (show quote)
No, you didn't actually blame the Sensor, you blamed the camera for "banding". Banding is invariably a sensor issue so you're just splitting hairs. I notice you ignored my point about the banding caused by fluorescent light but that's about par for the course. I made several points on the second page in response to various claims you made but as usual, you ignore the facts and simply resort to abuse.
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Jul 4, 2017 15:54:04   #
There you go again with the insults, the last resort of the insecure with a crumbling position. I get the feeling I've been here before and I really should know better than get involved in this no doubt pointless exercise. GBS said it best "Never wrestle with pigs, you get dirty and the pig likes it". If I repeat myself I may get through in the end, possibly.

This is NOT banding due to the sensor, why would you claim it is? I suppose you'd say the same about the banding induced by a fluorescent tube?
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Jul 4, 2017 12:33:09   #
Nice catch Cholly, so that's Zero banding then.
It had to be something odd going on given that only some, very few at that, images were affected.
I'm not likely to get an a9 but the tech will like as not appear in the next e-mount I purchase.
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Jun 25, 2017 06:33:59   #
It's probably not my place to muscle in on this exchange but ....
chaman wrote:
Nope. You are just bringing on the same usual "facts" brought by the usual fanboys. What I said is what is generally has been agreed upon by a lot of people about Sony.
I'm not sure what you mean by "generally agreed" or what constitutes a "lot of people but I'm guessing you refer to a lack of lenses which is the one usually trotted out. With regard to the A-Mount, this really doesn't compute because there's a pretty complete range when you include the Minolta and third party lenses. You can argue that the tracking system of the A-Mount is not as good as that found in CaNikon cameras; I can't disagree with that, however I know the a99ii is not so very far behind and it has other big advantages like the WYSIWYG EVF combined with things such as Eye Tracking, Focus Magnify, range limiting which make it a far more usable camera IMO. If I were exclusively a Sports/Wildlife Professional, then I might possibly be tempted to go for Nikon but that would be an expensive change. In any case, the 42 Mpix of the a99ii coupled with the Sony 500/4 is a killer combination that would be hard to beat so, maybe not.

BTW, when it comes to lenses for E-mount, Sony is doing a pretty good job considering the system is so new. It's also worth pointing out that Sony is designing for 50 lpm and if you look at DXO lens tests, Sony have three in the top ten, CaNikon have none. The latest Sony G Masters have not yet been tested.

chaman wrote:
The issue of the various mounts is recognized! Sony has created some adapters for it but its not the same as having native lenses.
What issues are you talking about?? As Cholly has already pointed out there are only two mounts "A" and "E". Yes, as a convenience Sony provide adapters to enable A-mount lenses to be used on E-mount and what's wrong with that? It's pretty useful for those of us with a bunch of A-Mount lenses dating back as far as 1986 and to have them stabilised as well. It's also a fact that there are third party adapters which enable the use of practically any lens ever made on E-mount; again, what's not to like??

chaman wrote:
Take Canon for example. Crop and full frame cameras share a lot of their lenses without the need of clunky adapters. In fact every full frame lens can be used on their crop models.....all of them. Thats a system for you.
Same for Sony. Every A-mount lens whether crop(DT) or FF fits any A-mount camera whether crop or FF. Every E-mount lens whether crop(E) or FF(FE) fits any E-mount camera whether crop or FF.

An adapter is only necessary if I want to use an A-mount lens on the E-mount in just the same way as the Canon mirrorless camera needs an adapter to use EF lenses. You really need to get your facts right if you want to continue your career as Troll and Fanboy.

chaman wrote:
Sony has failed to produce a reliable camera system but of course you will never understand that due to your pathological bias. Excellent customer service?? LOL Thats not what you find when looking at their reviews.
This is a load of rhetoric without fact. The Sony systems (plural) have been eminently reliable in my experience as has the customer service. There again, being in the UK, service is provided direct by Sony whereas in the US it's handled by American companies which is clearly less than optimal. You can find instances of poor customer service with any of the camera companies if you'd care to look.

chaman wrote:
I said it was a nice body but of course for absurd fanboys like you thats never enough. With your absurd fanboy attitude you belittle yourself.Oh and what I said about users here that love to exaggerate? You have just confirmed it. Thank you. You are one of those that could never take a decent image no matter what gear they use and just felt called for. If the shoe fits......it did with you, right?
Ah yes, insults. The last resort of the insecure with a crumbling position. I can't help feeling I really should know better than get involved in this no doubt pointless exercise. GBS said it best "Never wrestle with pigs, you get dirty and the pig likes it".
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Jun 24, 2017 06:46:32   #
mas24 wrote:
One initial complaint was that the camera had an overheating problem after a series of minimal shots. Did you notice any overheating in your camera body? A firmware could diminish that problem. Other than the overheating, photographers have still been impressed, like you. Enjoy your new toy.
Overheating has been shown not to be an issue by many tests since. Current speculation is that the particular overheating report may have been caused by the SD card used, a slow one inappropriate to the camera. There are trolls spreading these rumours presumably in an attempt to discredit the camera.
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Jun 6, 2017 12:23:58   #
Fat Gregory wrote:
Great topic. It stimulated a few questions in my old mind about a Minolta MC 50mm f1.4 I loved in the day and have not been able to let go... does anyone have any objective information or thoughts on its comparison to Nikons 50 mm f1.8G on a 7100?
The problem with using a Minolta SR mount lens on a Nikon requires an adapter with a lens element (someone already mentioned this) which causes unacceptable degradation to such a fine lens. I have many old Rokkors with which I never parted so I was very pleased when Sony introduced the mirrorless range; I started with the NEX-7 and they are now seeing full use on an a7rii. Wikd!
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Mar 24, 2017 20:13:19   #
Love to Dave but you have to know that Eagle will take one look at me and high-tail it.
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Mar 24, 2017 07:49:10   #
Dave, you can get the 58AM closer to the target by using an optical trigger fired by the pc-synced 20AM
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Mar 24, 2017 07:01:10   #
Peterff wrote:
Perhaps you know less about Canon than you think, they are more diversified than you suggest. Certainly not a 'one trick pony'. Nikon is also getting more diversified, although not as much as Canon so far.
You're probably correct and my "one trick pony" is probably a bit OTT but even with my limited expertise in the area of big business I can see that Canon's profitability has dropped by approximately two thirds since the high of 2007.
Peterff wrote:
Sony may be too diversified. It still makes some excellent products and technologies but that does not mean that it is invulnerable.
I have owned many Sony products over the years with no disappointments, but that does not mean that Sony has no business challenges to overcome.

I'm not sure a big company can be too diversified provided that management decisions are devolved to the divisions. Invulnerable? No! Any company which rests on it's laurels and fails to move with the times is vulnerable; I already mentioned Kodak and IBM but there are many more instances. Sony is a company which thrives on innovation, sometimes to its cost but often to great advantage. Where is Canon in innovation? I know that many Canon users complain that whilst new bodies appear on a regular basis, the changes and upgrades are minor while the increase in price is often significant. Where is the competition to the "killer" sensors offered by Sony (and Nikon) and where is the response to the mirrorless revolution?

I have no real axe to grind here and on a personal level I don't really care what Canon does or doesn't do. My investment in Minolta/Sony gear means I'm wedded to Sony whatever Canon may or may not come up with but on a more general level, genuine competition has to be good for the Consumer.
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Mar 23, 2017 06:08:41   #
planepics wrote:
I don't know if I could afford it yet, but would you consider selling the a77ii? I hear that the ISO and focus speed is better than the original model (which I have). It might be a nice bridge until I can get an a99ii - unless it's not enough of an upgrade. Either way I can't wait to try the 70-400 g2 at Oshkosh in July. I need to get to work now...bye.
Yes I'd sell it. I've been hanging on to it but apart from it being a second body it can't do anything the a99M2 doesn't do better. For air shows I used to swap my 300/2.8 between the a99 and a77M2 for the extra reach but with the additional MPix of the a99M2, I don't need to swap.

This picture of the MIG29 illustrates one difficulty; you need to choose the body in advance but I was a bit close to get it all in the frame of the 77M2. Now I have the a99M2, I have the option to crop anywhere up to a FL equivalent of 450mm retaining good detail and I would have got the tail in frame. A bit like having a 300-450 zoom.

ISO is better on the a77M2 but on its own not a big enough reason to change. The AF is something else, that is a big improvement and the reason I upgraded in the first place.


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Mar 22, 2017 12:42:14   #
planepics wrote:
Although this might seem like the same question as the OP I didn't want to scroll through 12 pages...I will be renting my first 'G' lens this summer for an annual aviation convention I frequent (but less frequently than I would like to). If I decided that I could afford to rent a FF body to go along with it (a99ii) would I get a better image by cropping the FF image (~42 MP) to the same apparent size at the crop body I use now (a77- ~24MP)?
Hi planepics. If you crop the 42MB Sensor down to the 1.5 crop of the a77II then you have an 18.7MB image
If you crop to 24MPix, then that would equate to a crop factor of 1.32
As you know I have both the a77M2 and the a99M2 and I now see little point in hanging on to the a77M2.
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