Mary, I enjoy your photos, and the photos of grandkids and shots like that in general. I'm just a people photography buff. That being said, those shots should be put in the gallery. The specific "people photography" section has grown into a learning section, and if you look at the info and the lighting, and not get worked up about bikinis (which is available to be seen on any beach or swimming pool) is almost as sexist as you are accusing the "males" on the sight. I'm one of those males, and I don't get any jollies by looking at the models, but do get excited about learning new techniques.

Just my 2 cents.

I was under the impression that a photo of a person or a group belonged in a section like the People Photography site, as long as it followed the rules of posting.

Gpoyner makes points that I totally agree with. The critique section and gallery are really self-promoting love your shots and fluffy critiques. The people forum was a ghost town before the pros came on, and I love it now.


Mr. deal and his attitude are unprofessional and his remarks. Never said his work was un professional just do no think this site is the place for it. So because my opinion was different he started the verbal war! Everyone has an opinion even you ,so why was it wrong for me to state mine? Because he did not like it and others agreed with me as some do him he insist on carrying it on. Can't this be enough said?


I am not sure how you find Bobby defending himself as proof of his raunchy, so-called professional work coming from a cesspool of slime being true. He didn't cast aspersions at you or any other morally superior poster here.

He was attacked for posting glamour photos with instructional lighting explanations. What a bastid!!! he should be shipped off with the rest of those "males" who would jump to shoot a nude (because that's the only way for them to see a naked person) for re-education to your narrow view of the world.

Can't really accuse you of being unprofessional, only condescending and bigoted.

I look forward to the photos that Bobby, Palepictures, CaptC, etc., post in the people section, because I learn to be a better photographer from their instruction, critiques and dialog. Sometimes, the subject matter isn't to my taste, but I still learn technique, and that's why there is variety in life. If you want everyone to see and think like you do, join a commune and exchange your name for a number.

I know the few times I have placed photos in that forum, the critique was brutally honest and meant to teach me, just as it is with others who post.

100% agree with you. this is the only family friendly site on the web. there are plenty of other sites for semi pornography. yet these people feel that they need to pull everyone else down to the cesspool of slime they live in. Personally i never understood the fascination with naked women. You want to see sleek lines an forms, i suggest photos of a 1959 Cadillac elderoado. much sleeker and better forms from classic cars then naked women. I hope you dont quit, just ignore the people section.