Not even worth it...lol

Yeah, you can see the mods don't just mod, they take part in the action! lol
I'm really bored with dealing with it.


I speak from experience. I spent a decade traveling between New York and Paris working with some of the best people in the industry. I know what the masses of pros were doing and saying. I don't google stuff. I googled to come up with the 2007-2008 timeframe. From experience, I knew there was a point in time BBF was sold to the public via the internet, I needed to find the point. That's all I needed google for.


No it doesn't. Every feature of a camera will be used by someone. If you said you used subject based exposure modes back in 2000, that doesn't mean the rest of the world was not using Aperture or Shutter priority as the vastly dominant exposure mode.

Like I said, rather than argue, rather than throw insults in my direction, why not possibly learn for yourself why there is this massive void in time from when BBF was available on cameras to when it was actually used?
You will find any autofocus discussion and tuition from before the 2007-2008 period did not concentrate or in 99.9% of cases, even mention BBF. Could it possibly be because ALL of the world's photographers and not just myself thought it was no good? Could it be that people looking for website clicks came up with BBF in 2007-2008 and sold the technique to the world just like conspiracy theorists sold the Covid conspiracies to the world?

There is one thing in common between 2007-2008 and 2020. Both periods require people to have little knowledge with no ability to form their own accurate conclusions. To be ignorant of anyone attempting to make them see beyond their own beliefs.

No, you're a joke. I don't slam anyone, that's what you do. I give an opinion that doesn't match yours and you sook like a little kid. You're the one who chases me around the forum, throws hostile posts in my direction. I haven't attacked anyone here. I've never accused anyone of BS even if I think they are posting total BS. It's their opinion, they can type what they like. The only time anyone gets anything back from me is when they start attacking me.

Unfortunately this forum does have the biggest reputation for deadbeats and it doesn't take long once you arrive to work out exactly who they are.

I'll pass on the info when I have the time but I am not retired so time is still at a premium.

The same people who trash me for my BBF opinion also trash me for my mirrorless opinion. It's near impossible to convince anyone a mirrorless camera is anything other than brilliant and will give you the best opportunity to get the best image. I don't agree with this and could argue the logic all day long.

I know the mirrorless images I will see over the coming years will all show the downgrade in photographic image quality I'm expecting. Again, to explain myself would take a heck of a long reply and to express an opinion alone, if it doesn't trend with the masses, people will just slam you.

Consideration of an opinion and why a person may have formed this opinion is not given consideration in itself in modern times. People don't like to think but they do like to be hostile, ignorant and arrogant. I was brought up to learn, never discount anything until I, myself, could find the reason to discount it. I had good teachers.

Hi Wallen,
Honestly, a lot needs to be covered and you need to see this in practice across multiple subjects. Long text explanations just don't work any longer in 2021. People don't have the patience.

If I interact on this forum, for any statement I make, I will likely need to type 10 times the amount of text later to defend my statement. lol

I'm just giving up from most posting and I'll put my points across in better ways.

I can assure you those AF-ON buttons were given a big push by Nikon in 1996 as a true pro feature for the first time. They were certainly tested, experimented with in real world situations and ultimately dumped by professional photographers. I think anyone here with any sense can see BBF suddenly just appeared by looking back at past autofocus related articles/threads as I have suggested. Surely without believing anything I say, a logical person will now question why BBF was not dominant till 2007-2008?

You know, the thread about what have you got from UHH was classic. You claim you have got absolutely nothing. I'd suggest after viewing some of your work maybe you should read a little more slowly just in a general sense.
What the heck is acoarst? I've seen people doing some weird stuff during my internet time but acoarst??? It's "of course."


You notice what camera Canon released this on? lol
You can be as ignorant and dismissive of my comments as you like. I think you will find any useful pro feature on a camera has always been immediately adopted by amateurs. I think you will also find pros have used the internet before 2007-2008 so BBF information would've been online.
1996 was the BBF turning point with the Nikon F5. Anyhow, you had to be there and be a pro to understand. I try to help teach people but it's not possible on this forum.

Please carry on. The posts are entertainment value if nothing else. You two experts quoted here are very much top of the pile for entertainment.

My evidence is in any piece of photographic history you can find. Go search BBF at dpreview or anywhere else. The site dates back maybe 20 years or more. See how many BBF threads can you find prior to the years I mentioned and how many after.
Read any focusing tips or articles prior to those years in magazines or whatever else and see how much mention there is of BBF.

There are two things in photography that are critical, that people have always struggled with, focus and exposure.
BBF is not great but it is easier for people to get results over really learning the skills of focusing. It was no different than manual focus days. You could achieve great results if you really knew how to follow focus. People didn't so avoided the technique and avoided stuff that moved until an autofocus system could do it for them.

BBF was possible from 1996 but not used till 2007-2008.
Why?

You'll watch it and maybe you'll even learn something.
I can assure you pros prior to 2007-2008 weren't stupid.
Today there is a lot of yap yap with little ability.

In a couple of years I should have time on my hands to create a few videos. First one I intend to make is to show why using BBF is no good and is nothing more than an internet conspiracy theory.

What is the tripod model you currently have?

It’s been 20 years I’d say since you could make real money from photography.

Break down on all things involved being a photographer in 2021 to an hourly rate and on average it’s got to be one of the worst paid jobs in the world.

Still a great find! I saw one not long ago on eBay and while the body looked ok, the base screamed "professional use." It wasn't cheap either!
They will be very rare. Maybe not worth a fortune yet but when you have possibly 9,999 of anything and collectors realize there are only a handful left, they become very valuable!
Then you still have to add in the history of the F5 and that these were the bodies used by pros to create many of the final outstanding professional film images, there is plenty to sell with.

It’s going to be the direct cause of my first serious attempt at a bird photo.

I’ve always tried to keep ISO low for digital and film unless going for a specific effect.

Box and original contents all there?
Might’ve been a backup that was hardly ever used. Photo Secretary software can tell you how many rolls have been through it but you need the software and connecting cord.