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Give some posts of your first good shots!

I have a lens with 18mm. I had trouble getting the whole family in the photo at a reunion in a room in a restaurant. I had trouble doing architectural photos getting the whole building, or doing an interior showing the whole room from a corner. I used to have a 24mm and liked it, when I got the 18mm my world was magically enhanced creatively. I knew carrying it a notch further would open up another world (It is amazing what a wide angle can do creatively with a landscape devoid of people or the straight lines of buidings). Of course, that world would be useless to the majority of photographers probably, who live to get those beautifull telephotos of a bird a hundred yards away!

The Tokina 11-16mm is going for $479.

I asked a similar question not long ago. I ended up getting a Tokina 11-16mm as I was already covered 18mm up to 300mm with various zooms and primes. I liked the 18mm but wanted even better for group shots to get the whole family reunion in one photo easily; and for architectural shots to get the whole interior or exterior structure where just backing up more is limited. I have found the lens' real strength is in purely natural landscape where there are no people or buildings to be affected by the wide angle distortion. Here are two photos from my first try with the 11-16mm lens, one vertical and one horizontal. I did some post processing on different days without comparing them (which explains the color differences, for instance in the sky).

Rocky Point Park on the Chesapeake Bay


Rocky Point Park vertical

In reference to your own profile pic, Ringo, great shot! How did you avoid a cracked lens which it looks like you are a split second away from? Did you move out of the way real quick? Is it a crop from a telephoto shot? Is it just a foam ball?

When you save an image in Photoshop to JPEG, a box appears for you to choose the amount of compression. You can choose low or high, usually they are indistinguishable for the same photo, but carefull scrutiny has shown me the choosing the smaller file size results in more "artifacts" if you enlarge an area of the photo for each one for instance you can see the difference. Thus the large file usually is a higer resolution and higher definition image, meaning better image quality too for any post processing, which can exacerbate otherwise unnoticeable artifacts. But there may be something else going on here we don't know about. It may be difficult to get information out of both manufacturers that would enable a more scientifically objective comparism.

Amazing. All my threads get little response. This "nonsense verse" gets 5 pages of responses from a large number of different UHH'ers, but not one followup by Ducky to give us a clue. Ducky gets the last laugh.

Question: Since enlarging seems to reduce DOF because of decreased resolution, would not an Apsc sensor with 24 megapixels give a sharper image that an a full frame with 10 megapixels? There should be an equation that would show where they are equal.

I would elaborate that depth of field is highly controllable by the aperture choice, f/1.4 giving the narrowist DOF (I hate most photos where the eyes are in focus but the tip of the nose and the ears are blurred because the DOF is so narrow). f/22 is about the smallest you can get without diffraction distortion which again introduces a reduction in sharp focus, but gives a great range in DOF from extreme foreground to extreme background. Again, to elaborate further on lens DOF, I just got an extreme wide angle 11-16mm lens which has the deepest DOF I have ever seen. You can get your feet in focus and the horizon line at the same time!

Good to know for when I get my full frame camera. Someday! I am thinking of upgrading from my Nikon 5200 to one of those new Canon 55megapixel DSLR's. But the wrong lens mount... hmm...by the time I can afford one Nikon should have a 60 megapixel camera!

I am delighted with it! No noticeable softness in the corners even when enlarged, like some similar lenses which I researched. It has fantastic depth of field too. It wouldn't have been possible without my friends at UHH! Like I said, I was not familiar with Tokina until I heard it here. Thanks again.

A few weeks back I got advice on which extreme wide angle to get for my Nikon D5200. The Tokina was mentioned, and I had not heard of it before. I did some research and saw it had a rave review from Ken Rockwell. So I finally decided to order one and lo and behold Adorama, B&H and everybody was back ordered on them! Finally found one on Amazon from a seller with good reviews, and ordered it; they said they had one left. I was out of town and had car trouble, spent the night out of state, and the next day when I got home around 6pm it was sitting right out in the open in front of my door in the cardboard mailing box! This miracle is all the more so because I live in an majority black townhouse community in Essex, Md., which is on Baltimore's northeast border, where the night before there were city-wide riots that you heard about, looting, and many fires, etc. Here is my first photo with the Tokina taken at Rocky Point Park on the Chesepeake, 5 miles away. So thanks for the help and advice from the Ugly Hedgehogs!!!!

Taken with the Tokina 11-16mm lens at 11mm (cropped from original)

I saw Chick Corea years ago, the name Return to Forever rings a bell, I thought he was the guitar player, but it was Al Dimeola, another favorite. I saw Al just a few years ago but he didn't do his electric stuff much, mostly acoustic...of which he said "they love it in Europe" acknowledging our disdain. I wanted to hear far out evolutions from his old style, but it was pretty tame. Of little interest I guess to a piano man, sorry. We had a piano when I was growing up, as I developed an interest in music as a teenager I asked Dad to get it tuned, he refused, a 'needless expense'. I always have a bad taste in my mouth about pianos unfortunately because ours was always out of tune! Pavlov's dog and all that. I do have an appreciation of Chopin however. A client had me paint a mural, he had Chopin tapes, I found them inspiring to paint by.

Who was playing piano in the video? Herbie Hancock?