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Jan 8, 2024 10:55:05   #
MattG wrote:
I need some suggestions regarding a telephoto lens.

I have Nikon D850 and Nikon Z6II. I’m looking to get either Nikon 200-500 f5.6 or a new Nikon 180-600 f5.6-6.3 Z lens. My dilemma is regarding how good the Z6II would be with this new Nikon Z telephoto lens.

I can get the older Nikon 200-500 f6.6 lens with FTZ Adapter and use it with Z6II as well as with Nikon D850.

If I get the new Z lens ( which I prefer) I’m stuck using exclusively with Nikon Z6II.

Howe good would Z6II be with FTZ Adapter and Nikon 200-500 f5.6

Any impression regarding using Nikon D850 and Nikon 200-500 f5.6

Any thoughts from someone who is using or has used the above combination…!

Thanks
I need some suggestions regarding a telephoto lens... (show quote)


If you are going to continue with 2 different systems I would go with the lenses compatible with both.
I have done this with my R7 and 7D and kept the EF lenses as they are excellent lenses and work the same on either camera.
This way if you want to use the F mount camera alone for what ever reason you have a lens that works with it. The other way around you lose your options.
Your call but I have no regrets staying with the EF system lenses that can be swapped between EF and RF bodies.
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Jan 8, 2024 10:28:50   #
burkphoto wrote:
There are standards for print viewing illumination and monitor brightness. The brightness of the print generally matches the brightness of the monitor when you follow the standards. I mentioned these numbers early on in this thread.

Use print evaluation light boxes with 5000K lighting adjusted to read f/10 at ISO 100 at 1/100 second off of a gray card placed in the print viewing position.

> Set monitor calibration aims as follows:

* Initial color temperature 5800K

* White level 105 ± 15 candelas per square meter (cd/m^2)

* Black level 0.5 cd/m^2

* Gamma 2.2

If your calibrator can read room light levels, allow it to do so and adjust the white level and color temperature accordingly.
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How many homes, cell phones on the bus etc. meet those standards? I will tell you, the number is statistically insignificant if even measurable.
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Jan 7, 2024 22:53:18   #
Wallen wrote:
There was a time when we were very strict with colors. As a graphic designer, our monitors are calibrated and we had hoods over the screen. A darker room ang neutral colors were the norm. But times have changed. We realize that most media are now viewed electronically and though we still strive to be color correct, general/average viewing conditions are now considered. Hence we have a generaly lighted invironment now. What affects images more nowadays, are the compression done by online sites and the quality of monitors used.

I for one have on personal projects, edit on crappy monitors. If i manage to make the image look good on it, then im assured it would look great on the good ones. .
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Jan 7, 2024 22:13:08   #
7D W/ 24-105mm L f4


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Jan 7, 2024 22:12:35   #
Stash wrote:
My friend's 1955 Ford pickup. Besides this he has three other vehicles he has restored. He built a garage just to house them in. He was a automotive teacher at a vocational high school before retirement. He had access to tools and equipment which made his restoration jobs a lot easier.


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Jan 7, 2024 20:37:46   #
Longshadow wrote:


Just think of the worry and hassle I save not being concerned with it.



Yep, adds 15 years to your life.
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Jan 7, 2024 19:59:13   #
burkphoto wrote:
Correct. But if you’re running a lab or presenting content to the general public, it makes sense to have a reference point of accurate color reproduction. If color balance is all over the color wheel, it becomes very noticeable, in a negative way.

Maybe I want a particular scene to be amber or blue biased, but if so, I want it to a controlled degree. And if a set of six scenes captured in the same place has six different color balances, it seems a bit amateurish.


I am not disagreeing with you and your efforts.
I just live, work, design in the real world of infinite variables. Bulb goes out and facilities grabs the first Bulb that fits etc.
Yes, you need an excellent final product as it can be.
But once it leaves the shop viewing is the variable.
Even going to a building and calibrating everything for the photos once a bulb goes out and the whole board has changed 3 times it is likely the replacement bulbs will be different.
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Jan 7, 2024 19:49:52   #
Longshadow wrote:
Not gonna happen at my place.....


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Jan 7, 2024 19:47:42   #
Bill_de wrote:
Why would one camera with a problem been a concern? I'd guess that any camera you name, somebody has one with a problem.


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Jan 7, 2024 14:31:31   #
burkphoto wrote:
The good 2700K LEDs (Cree, Philips...) are similar to incandescents, below about 100-Watt incandescent equivalent. Cheap LEDs aren't.

I prefer LEDs for most applications. We got rid of about 50 incandescent lamps around our house several years ago. LED lights use about 1/6 of the power that we did before the switch from incandescents. I think there are a couple of incandescents in the attic, but they are seldom used.

Good 5000K LEDs really look great around textiles and food.


You have no control over what people use at home.
I prefer the warm LEDs but others might not or buy whatever is in the store.
So the point is no matter how lab perfect a print is in controller viewing of the lab, at home it is a wild hodge podge of lighting and paint and furniture and other wall hangings all making each room completely different as far as color. Even the direction you face in the room or what corner or center can vary color viewing.
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Jan 7, 2024 14:25:54   #
Longshadow wrote:
Another thing I'm not going to worry about is the viewers lighting.


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Jan 7, 2024 14:25:17   #
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Any lenses that work on the D5600 will work on a Z with an adapter.


Yes.
There are those suggesting a 7xxx series camera here because it use old lenses.
That is why I suggest the 5600 that the OP is looking at as I said previously it's lenses will be compatible with the Z system.
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Jan 7, 2024 13:54:32   #
burkphoto wrote:
Good point. Color balance may need to shift to blue-violet from neutral slightly when prints are to be displayed under dim incandescent lights.


Remember that with the ban on incandescent lights LEDs will begin to dominate.
I have been doing LEDs for several years now in commercial projects instead of florescent.
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Jan 7, 2024 13:46:13   #
Longshadow wrote:


One can have the best, most expensive editing setup in the world.
And a viewer can be seeing it on a $50 monitor......
And that viewer won't be cognizant of any difference from the photographer's "perfect" original.

But it surly makes the photographer feel good knowing he has the best equipment.
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Correct
Throw in a print viewed in innumerable lighting conditions same thing.
Houses, offices etc. Are all different.
I might not be a print master in a commercial lab but I do design buildings and lighting including resorts, casinos, museums, hotel, offices, schools, auditoriums stores and houses. So I have a bit of experience in lighting and can say that they all vary greatly in lighting.
If you want the photo to be seem "correctly" you absolutely must know the environment and medium the photo will be viewed in. Calibration of the recipient's monitor, room lighting etc
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Jan 7, 2024 10:31:02   #
whatdat wrote:
A d5700 has been mentioned a couple of times on this thread; I cannot find any reference that a d5700 was ever introduced by Nikon. Having said that, I have a d5500 that I pair with a Nikon 18-140 for a lightweight general purpose lens & a d7500 paired with a Nikon 28-300 lens (heavier) for other purposes. Completely satisfied with both. D5xxx series do not have a built in auto-focus, but the d7xxx series do, so would give you more options on lenses. Just my 2cents eorth. Good luck with your choice.
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Just remember that most lenses that need a motor in the camera are quite old and are not forward compatible with any new Nikon products being introduced.
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