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Apr 16, 2016 04:41:22   #
Nightski wrote:
For me RG, there is too much empty space in the middle without a dramatic foreground element. Might have been better if you had worked the scene and found a way to get one of the boats in closer, leaving the other out. As is, it's a little confusing to the eye.


Thanks for commenting.. I like the fact that the foreground and mid-ground both channel the eye towards the distant cloud beams and illuminated mountains. If there was a dramatic foreground element it would tend to become the main subject of the scene, and the eye would be inclined to stop there. As a consequence the foreground element would become an obstacle blocking the way to the rest of the shot.

The way it is, whatever part of the image that the eye stops on, there will always be that channelling effect to lead the eye deeper into the image, with that pleasant reward at the end. I think that's what Dave was referring to when he mentioned good depth cues.
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Apr 16, 2016 04:30:11   #
Billyspad wrote:
Its run initially from an Action in Photoshop R.G. which leaves you around 30 layers which can all be adjusted to suit. Its probably over complicated but as you say a long way ahead of a pre set. Background colour choice is infinite so any mistakes in that area are totally down to me.
The image is then merged and mixed with tho original via layer masks with different blend modes applied. The hardest bit so far is knowing when to stop!


I would say the skill is in adapting the effect to suit the image, which isn't going to happen with a one-click effect. That and knowing when to stop (when is that not a requirement... :-) ).
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Apr 16, 2016 04:18:25   #
DWU2 wrote:
I used the DNG. When I uploaded the result, I created a JPG using LR, setting quality level at 70%. So, no problem.


Thanks for the feedback, DWU. As long as the drop in resolution didn't cause any problems with editing.
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Apr 16, 2016 04:16:29   #
Shakey wrote:
I tried to load the DNG file, R.G. It showed up as a tiff file when I downloaded it. I thought a tiff would load easy but this one would not open. I used the jpg to produce the image way back. I hope this helps in a negative way.
:-(


That's a funny one, Shakey. Windows and Lightroom both recognised it as a DNG on my computer. Do you have your importer set to import raw files as tiff? I believe that DNG is classified as a type of raw.
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Apr 15, 2016 15:58:56   #
DWU2 wrote:
Here's a mono version made from the DNG with help from NIK Silver Efex Pro II.


Thanks for taking part, DWU. There's nothing quite like contrasty B&W for drama. Did you find the reduced resolution a problem at any point in your edit?
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Apr 15, 2016 15:56:27   #
rborud wrote:
R.G.
I found this Loch so beautiful, I had to give a go.
RBorud


Thank you RB. Very moody, and there's definitely an increased sense of presence from the mountains :thumbup: .
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Apr 15, 2016 12:46:40   #
NJFrank wrote:
RG this one doesn't seem to work for me. I feel like I am looking at two pictures at the same time. My eyes keep bouncing back and forth between the mountains and the gable. A crop can be made one focusing on the mountain. The other on the gable. I hope that makes sense to you


Thanks for commenting, NJ. One of the things that I liked about the scene was that the shape of the gable was echoed in some of the peaks of the mountains. Again that's something that was clearer to me when I viewed it first-hand. Maybe with a re-shoot with better light for the mountains and some of the gable outlined by the sky.......
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Apr 15, 2016 12:37:44   #
neilds37 wrote:
I didn't intend to only alter half the gable in the final - just showing the difference between the original and the altered. I'd make the whole gable the same. So many ways to look at things... Nothing is "right".


Going dark is something I hadn't considered. If I re-work it I'll probably give it partly adjustments and partly cloning over the stony parts of the beach next to the gable.
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Apr 15, 2016 12:32:17   #
jaymatt wrote:
I like it.


Thank you John.
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Apr 15, 2016 12:31:29   #
abc1234 wrote:
You take such interesting pictures of such difficult subjects. I have such a hard time capturing the impact of a landscape on "film". The lighting is usually to flat. And rocks and stones are just a difficult. You are Scotland's ambassador of tourism. If you would only take pictures of people....

Here is my take on the scene. I wish you had been more generous on composing it or did this as a panorama. I look at that building and wonder who lived there and what life was like. Lonely and hard scrabble. And the view that changed constantly as the weather changed. They had to be really tough people.
You take such interesting pictures of such difficu... (show quote)


Thank you abc. I think with the right sort of landscapes and the right sort of editing it's hard to go wrong. Flat lighting can be easily fixed in PP.

In your edit I think you got the vividness just right by taking it up to the point where any more would have been too much. Knowing when to pull back is essential for getting that sort of pushing to work. I think that's one of the shot's problems - the gable needs something to make it stand out but the rest of the shot isn't so tolerant of the extra processing that the gable would need.

People photography would be a whole new ball game for me. I'd have to work on my people skills in a big way. For me landscapes are the easy option.
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Apr 15, 2016 12:19:10   #
neilds37 wrote:
The right half gable has been altered to, I hope, separate the gable from the background. The degree of difference is variable. Just an idea.


I hadn't thought of going darker with the gable and darkening only some of it. It does seem to be a move in the right direction. I think you're right - the background to the right of the gable is bright and the background on the left is dark, so separate adjustments are required. Thanks for posting, Neil.
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Apr 15, 2016 12:12:06   #
AlMac wrote:
Used the DNG link R.G. Plenty to play with there. All in photoshop.

Thanks for your post.


You're welcome, Al. Is that moody or what!

I forgot to ask for feedback in the original post regarding the DNG file. To upload it I had to condense it down by reducing the resolution and I would like to know if a lack of resolution was a problem at any point in the edit.

In the past I've used lossy compression for DNGs but it doesn't work with my merged bracketed shots. I suspect that the condensed DNG is better than the jpg for editing and the reduced resolution would only be a problem for large prints.
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Apr 15, 2016 12:03:00   #
Shakey wrote:
Thanks for posting, R.G. Thought I would go in the opposite direction to Billy. :D
Did you stay at the Bed & Breakfast at the other end of the loch?
Click download for best view.


Crikey your eyesight must be good. You can tell it's a B&B from that distance!? :D .

I like to see how far my shots can be taken in the "vivid and detailed" direction because it wouldn't work if the data wasn't there. Thanks for taking part, Shakey.
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Apr 15, 2016 11:57:33   #
Billyspad wrote:
Still practicing this new technique R.G. but you image was better suited to it I feel. PP work carried out whilst dressed in shorts and an England football shirt


This is streets ahead of the similar pre-set effects that can be done with a click of the mouse. It seems to me that getting the colour of the tint correct is crucial for optimum effect, and it occurred to me that you could use the same technique that's used for frames - select appropriate colour/s from the photo itself. Good luck with your experimenting. It seems to be working.
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Apr 15, 2016 11:52:34   #
Jim-Pops wrote:
Nothing like 4-wheeling.


LOL. It looks like Loch Scavaig has its own monster :-) .
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