Najataagihe wrote:
Oh, Good Lord, folks!
PAY ATTENTION!
He is teaching home-schooled beginners, not trying to train photojournalists!
Limited budgets, folks.
Y'all are starting on the wrong end.
Get a beginner's camera.
A beginner needs to be concentrating on composition, not trying to figure out how to work an advanced camera.
Get them interested in the final product, not the process.
Even the exposure triangle should be left to later instruction, if only delayed a few weeks.
You start with all that technical crap and kids are going to turn off and run.
So, my recommendation (having quite some experience with home-school and private school teaching)?
Believe it or not: https://www.amazon.com/Seckton-Upgrade-Birthday-Portable-Card-Blue/dp/B087ZTH98B/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1DW81KFLUSQ7O&dchild=1&keywords=camera+for+kids&qid=1630683217&refinements=p_85%3A2470955011%2Cp_72%3A1248963011&rnid=1248961011&rps=1&s=toys-and-games&sprefix=camera+for+kids%2Caps%2C178&sr=1-4
$30.
You can buy enough of them to supply the whole class for next to nothing.
After you have:
1. Made the point that it is the photographer, not the equipment
2. Determined who is going to actually pursue this hobby
3. Determined who is ready to delve into the wonderful world of exposure control
THEN, you can worry about the manual-capable cameras.
Until you get to that point, you are:
1. Confusing your students with TMI
2. Wasting their parents' money, if the student does not want to pursue it further
3. Diverting their limited brainpower from learning how to make photographs to learning how to operate equipment
Most of us have been in this hobby so long, we have forgotten just how steep the learning curve is.
Without the enthusiasm we have developed over the years, I doubt anyone would devote any significant time to further study.
FIRST RULE OF TEACHING:
Teach to your student's actual level of development, not what you think it should be.
Crawl, Walk, Run.
You guys are not asking them to Run, but you, sure as Niffleheim is cold, are trying to get them to Walk before they have Crawled.
DON'T run them off.
Six weeks of cheapo cameras will weed out the uninterested without staining their parents' budget.
THEN, move to a more sophisticated SINGLE-LENS Point-and-Shoot that they will be able to use as a "carry-everywhere" camera, even after they progress (hopefully) to a full-blown "professional" rig.
To the OP: Good luck and Bless You for introducing the next generation to something they can enjoy when they are our age and older.
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If I would have not learned the rote, mechanical basics first, but concentrated on composition instead, my first photos would have been poor, and I would have lost interest. If a teenager is not willing to commit to learning the correct way to make excellent images, he'll never like photography, because refusal to learn the exposure triad is pathetic laziness, as is refusal to expend effort and time to obtain a desirable result.
50% of online content is: 'how to get something valuable without expediture of time, effort or money!' If we keep people busy trying to do the impossible, there will be plenty of room at the top for my kids!
The exposure triad is the simplest concept imagineable! I can't get the image I want with "program mode". Sometimes priority makes sense, but usually it's manual with auto ISO and a certain AF mode. When I got my first calculator for engineering, my Dad got me the best one. WHY?, because I was committed! Consequently, I was in graduate-level physics my by my sophomore year!
Let's not have them lose interest. Well, you can't rent a camera affordably for an entire year of school. So, the student must be committed to working dilligently, because of the expense necessary for them to even have a chance at success. Do you get a child a violin that's missing one string, or a flute that is chopped off to 3/4 of it's ordinary length, or a guitar that has strings that don't hurt a little bit at first? No, because nylon strings sound bad.
Babying kids is the best way to end up with them living at home until their mid-thirties, unemployed, refusing to do anything that requires the least bit of effort, and using your credit card for online purchases of.video games, sex toys, and porn.
My kids are savvy go-getters, fearing God more than man; college educated professionals who will make a difference
for the better, and marry, reproduce, and add quality new people to the world; not have mongrels out of wedlock who add to the aggregate of dysfunctional malcontents!
So, 50-200 budget is guaranteed failure in the long run, because it makes impossible to capture what the creative eye sees! A photography class is not something one does as a recreational activity. I learned how to
shoot from books. My Dad had done pro work, but he told me I had to learn on my own. He did get me a Nikon F2 and a 85mm f1.8, after I showed him I was serious, by learning how to use a camera on my own! That was like a dream come true. I used it until the N90 came out. And I knew how to capture anything! I rented lenses and lighting from Helix.
But, the foam mirror damper got sticky from age. So, I sold it. It was still usable, but for how long?
Every kid is surrounded by professionally made Images. How is a kid
supposed to be motivated of he knows it is impossible for
him to produce professional results. Whenever I've done anything, it's been to be the best, or at least at that level! Even with drinking, I was one of the best! Then, I got married. She didn't appreciate my profficieny in that area, so I slowed down to a married-guy level.
Sorry to disagree, but greatness cannot be built on a foundation of mediocrity!